Fake Supreme Soviet Deputy Badges - Page 3

Dave · 05-17-2003, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eugene
Dave,
you are mistaken. The market is very good for them. Especially outside of US and particular in Russia. They are easily sold at $70-80 in Russia. There are plenty of collectors of such badges and I saw dozens of online ads in Russian internet of this area collectors looking to buy them. Even in US it's not a problem to sell original ones in this price range. If they fake Warsaw medal and Glory 3 order, why wouldn'n they fake $70-80 badge?
Another US based dealer periodically lists faked badges on E at $70. Experienced collectors wouldn't buy them:

I stand corrected then! :eek: My comment was based on trying to sell this one that I have for $40, and no one even querying about it... in fact, it's sitting on my desk in front of me! Oh well... Guess ya learn something new everyday! :) Thanks Eugene!

--Dave

Nota Bene · 05-17-2003, 05:14 PM

Tal,

I wasn't talking about the one Eugene had posted. I believe both your badges are genuine.

Alexei

Tal Inbar · 05-17-2003, 05:17 PM

I know...Tell it to Eugene!

Tal

Keith · 06-26-2003, 02:31 PM

Hello,

Does anyone have an opinion about the authenticity of this badge?

Thanks,
Keith

Nota Bene · 07-01-2003, 07:00 PM

Keith,

I am not 100% sure, but I believe it's a fake. A genuine badge would have a more clear star on the banner top and a more pronounced line on the pole (or none at all). I have also seen a bunch of fake Estonian Deputy badges with identical screwposts (cut) and screwplates.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Alexei

tashkentski · 07-02-2003, 11:10 AM

Hi Alex,
What do you think of this one?
Shiva

Nota Bene · 07-03-2003, 06:38 PM

Guys,

One of the members had asked me a question about the screwpost. Here's a badge, that I don't want to risk my $$ on. I don't have any proof that it is really a fake, but I don't like the fact, that suddently a bunch of identical or almost identical badges became easily available.

Alexei

yolkin · 07-04-2003, 01:23 PM

Alexei, unless

1) someon'e extensive collection was stolen and is being resold piece-by-piece

or

2) someone sold their extensive collection piece-by-piece

you might be right. There definitely is a similarity between the screwposts...

The two that I just picked up look genuine because the soldering on the bases looks like all the other pieces.

Thanks,

Eric

charlet · 07-04-2003, 06:43 PM

Well, Alexei, you seem confirm my old doubts about my deputy badge, identic in tone and colour to Tachkentski's badge photo: what warned me is the screwpost unsual, deep crimsom enamel and almost slight defaults of enamel, which doesn't flush perfectly with metal sculptures of waves, star, etc...enamel isn't prefectly flat, with tiny "waves" in contact with metal reliefs...still a nice work if they are definitively fakes...80 usd lost...but my seller is a good one, or was a very good one, overrun by recent fakers...
here're my ref pictures for this badge:

in an ukranian doc only a pinback version is known for recent models

and maybe the original screwback used for copy?
from the 50' version:

Nota Bene · 07-05-2003, 08:06 PM

Eric,

I was just offered five more of them :)

Alexei

Quote:

Originally posted by yolkin
Alexei, unless

1) someon'e extensive collection was stolen and is being resold piece-by-piece

or

2) someone sold their extensive collection piece-by-piece

you might be right. There definitely is a similarity between the screwposts...

The two that I just picked up look genuine because the soldering on the bases looks like all the other pieces.

Thanks,

Eric

Charlet,

I think both badges you have posted are genuine.

Alexei

05-17-2003, 05:17 PM	#23
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	I know...Tell it to Eugene! Tal __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!

07-04-2003, 01:23 PM	#28
yolkin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 46 Posts: 206	Alexei, unless 1) someon'e extensive collection was stolen and is being resold piece-by-piece or 2) someone sold their extensive collection piece-by-piece you might be right. There definitely is a similarity between the screwposts... The two that I just picked up look genuine because the soldering on the bases looks like all the other pieces. Thanks, Eric __________________ Soviet Union is the only country with an unpredictable ... past!

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05-17-2003, 05:14 PM	#22
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Tal, I wasn't talking about the one Eugene had posted. I believe both your badges are genuine. Alexei

07-01-2003, 07:00 PM	#25
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Keith, I am not 100% sure, but I believe it's a fake. A genuine badge would have a more clear star on the banner top and a more pronounced line on the pole (or none at all). I have also seen a bunch of fake Estonian Deputy badges with identical screwposts (cut) and screwplates. Sorry I can't be of more help. Alexei

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