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03-01-2005, 03:22 AM | #1 |
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Order of Patriotric War 1 Class and 2 Class
Hello,
what do you think about this group. Put together ? I added the page with Name of the recipant. regards Andreas Last edited by Alfred; 03-01-2005 at 08:48 AM. |
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03-01-2005, 04:36 AM | #2 |
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Hi,
Can you make some scan's also from the first page? With what ink the name is written? Regards, Lauri |
03-01-2005, 05:07 AM | #3 |
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Alfred,
Apart from the overly dark patina on the bottom part of the OPW 2nd class, which is suspicious, the group seems fine to me. Marc |
03-01-2005, 08:49 AM | #4 | |
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picture added The ink of the name looks brighter, than the ink of the serial numbers. Any thoughts? Last edited by Alfred; 03-02-2005 at 05:17 AM. |
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03-06-2005, 01:53 PM | #5 |
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Andreas,
That's a tough one - the front page looks OK with old ink, and a very convincing signature, and the ink inside the booklet is indeed different. Hmmm.... Sometimes they "season" this page, where the awards are listed, under the sun, untill all entries disapear completely, but this would be impossible to tell from a scan. I would suggest having this group researched. Alexei |
03-07-2005, 03:14 AM | #6 |
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Thanks Alexei,
the group is not mine. It was on the favourite auction site, for a reasonable price. Some/most other items from the seller are fakes. So I will stay away! According to Kutzenko the dates of the awards fit to the date in the Order book. regrads Andreas |
03-24-2005, 02:45 PM | #7 |
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for sale again
it is interesting, the group is on sale again!!! odd? :rolleyes:
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