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05-30-2006, 06:24 PM | #11 | |
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Yeah, I am just not sure, how does he fit in this company :confused:
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05-31-2006, 06:52 AM | #12 | |
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It is quite difficult to realize indeed, at least from a western side...
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05-31-2006, 08:53 AM | #13 |
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I am sorry, I was doing 10 things at a time as always. Other guys in this company belong to "ancient" history, so I was surprised to see Andropov amongst them. Besides I can understand an Order of Peter the Great, who was a great reformer, or Lomonosov, but Andropov, I don't know... Alexei |
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Anyone does know the proportion of russian citizens who think Andropov could have been the great reformator of the USSR despite of his repressive tasks?
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05-31-2006, 10:59 AM | #15 |
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I thought it was my bad English :)
I would say the proportion should be pretty high. As problems in the Russian economy mount many people start thinking about the recent past as of "good old days" and wondering what would've happened with the country if Andropov didn't die so soon. Alexei |
05-31-2006, 04:13 PM | #16 |
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Here are some infos about the Academy...
Arka agency : "CEREMONIAL AWARDING OF ORDERS OF RF ACADEMY OF SECURITY, DEFENSE, LAW AND ORDER TO BE HELD AT RF EMBASSY IN ARMENIA YEREVAN, May 15. /ARKA/. A ceremonial awarding of orders of the Russian Academy of Security, Defense, Law and Order is to be held at the RF Embassy in Moscow of May 16. The Order of Peter the Great First Class will be awarded to RF Ambassador to Armenia Nikolay Pavlov, RA Minister of Defense Serge Sargsyan, RA Prosecutor General Aghvan Hovsepyan. RA First Deputy Minister of Defense, Chief of the Joint Staff, RA Armed Forces, Lieutenant-General Mikael Harutyunyan, Chairman of the Standing Commission for Defense, National Security and Internal Affairs, RA Parliament, Mher Shahgeldyan will be awarded the Order of Alexander Nevsky First Class. The RA Presidential Advisor, Chief Military Inspector Gurgen Dalibatyan will be awarded the Order of Great Victory, and President of the “MIKA Limited” company Mikhail Bagdasarov will be awarded the Order of Peter the Great Second Class. The orders will be awarded by RF Ambassador to Armenia Nikolay Pavlov, Vice-President of the Academy K. Hakobyan, President of the Armenian branch of the Academy S. Hakobyan. A delegation of the Academy is to arrive from Moscow to take part in the ceremony. Russian Academy of Security, Defense, Law and Order was registered by the RF Ministry of Justice on August 31, 2000. Its principal functions are studying and summarizing the achievements of Russian and international science, contributing to the consolidation of scientific relations between relevant organizations in the other CIS countries, cooperating with government bodies in security, defense, law and order, educational activities, and advocating the results of scientific and practical activities in this field. The Academy established over 68 divisions throughout the Russian Federation, 85 functioning departments and six branches in the CIS countries. Over 6,000 correspondent-members and professors are working on a voluntary basis there. Among members of the Academy are members of the Council of Federation, RF Federal Assembly, members of the RF State Duma, heads of the RF regional administrations, officials, state and public figures. P.T. " Ch. |
08-10-2007, 12:23 PM | #17 |
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08-10-2007, 12:26 PM | #18 |
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Hmmmm. Questionable quality, but I guess that's to be expected. I don't understand why they felt the need to include "Russian Federation" and "Order of Andropov" on the back. Hopefully if you win one you'll know what it is and where its from...
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08-10-2007, 08:49 PM | #19 |
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I doubt seriously if an "order" would be dedicated to what basically turned out to be a transitional head of state. I'm not questioning the accomplishments Yuri Andropov had made that caused his election in the first place but, from a realistic standpoint, no one heard much about him prior to his becoming head of state, and there wasn't much said about him after. In my opinion, Leonide Brezhnev was of a stature (and granted, he certainly created most of that "stature") that would more rate an "order"- and I've certainly never seen one for him.
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Here is some information about the order:
Issued by All-Russian public organization "Academy of the Problems of Safety, Defense and Law". - the public association of scientists for study and generalization of the achievements of world and domestic science, on the assistance to the development of scientific and technical, social and economic progress and the practical use of its achievements in the security interests, defense and law. Order of Andropov rewarded citizens for the selfless act, courage, courage and heroism, perfected with the performance of military, official and civic duty, and also, for the successful accomplishment of special and secret objectives. For the high achievements in the state, scientific research, social, public and charitable activities, which made it possible to essentially improve the conditions of life of people. For the merits in training of the highly skilled personnel, training the growing up generation, maintenance of legality and law. Order rushes on the right side of breast. Last edited by ericlida; 08-10-2007 at 10:03 PM. |
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