Fake Supreme Soviet Deputy Badges - Page 4

charlet · 07-06-2003, 07:28 AM

sorry not to have been clear enough gentlemen: I have a badge identical to Tachkentski's one, but I don't have any pic of it. The photos I posted are of course from a reliable source and I use them now a referenec for comparison!

HuliganRS · 02-20-2004, 11:46 AM

How does this one look?

Thanks,

Rusty.

Nota Bene · 02-21-2004, 09:14 PM

Rusty,

Very suspicious - I don't like the MD mark, screwpost base, serial numebr, etc.

Alexei

Lauri · 03-17-2004, 07:29 AM

be affraid Keith ! They are faking this ensv ülemnõukogu badges like grazy in Tallinn and quality is exellent!

Nota Bene · 03-31-2004, 10:10 PM

Yes, I can attest to that. I've seen them, and they are quite good. There is just one minor detail on the fakes, that I am not going to disclose :)

Alexei

charlet · 04-03-2004, 06:14 AM

after my fronteer medal, here's what I believe my second fake in my collection (for the other, I spent a lot of patience and moooooney at good dealers...;)).
It came from Estonia or neighborood...Again I didn't heard a warning bell in my mind telling me "enamels are not beautifull red crimson blood" like those shown on the pics of a well known expensive guy of NJ...
the enamels are too dark though very well made.

the reveerse worried me a few times after (oh! curious! I just began to haunt a very good US forum...;)...and began to learn A LOT...)

the conical screwpost base...no patina...but still nice job, but not like the pics of NJ guy...

and...reading some posts:

soviet enamels are finished by polishing, giving a soft and perfect surface!

on my piece, still very nice but very fake (I think), you can see "waves" of hot enamel , flushing not perfectly on the "boundary" made by the metal sculptures...
on a genuine the enamels touch perfectly the metal sculptures.

if you could confirm my hypothesis...thanks!

the doc will come in the fakes doc section.

Nota Bene · 04-03-2004, 06:02 PM

Charlet,

I also believe this badge is a fake - it has problems with the enamel, that you had mentioned, the flag pole is not quite right, and I don't like the screwpost attachement.

Alexei

charlet · 04-04-2004, 07:43 AM

I'd tell the main givewaways for the averse are a red strawberry for the enamels, and by manyfying with daylight, the waves of enamel...

Keith · 04-08-2004, 12:23 PM

Does anyone have an opinion about this one?

Tal Inbar · 04-08-2004, 12:33 PM

Authentic. However, the S/N probably changed, which is not ALWAYS a bad sign in those badges.

07-06-2003, 07:28 AM	#31
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	sorry not to have been clear enough gentlemen: I have a badge identical to Tachkentski's one, but I don't have any pic of it. The photos I posted are of course from a reliable source and I use them now a referenec for comparison! __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

04-04-2004, 07:43 AM	#38
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	I'd tell the main givewaways for the averse are a red strawberry for the enamels, and by manyfying with daylight, the waves of enamel... __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

04-08-2004, 12:33 PM	#40
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	Authentic. However, the S/N probably changed, which is not ALWAYS a bad sign in those badges. __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!

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02-21-2004, 09:14 PM	#33
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Rusty, Very suspicious - I don't like the MD mark, screwpost base, serial numebr, etc. Alexei

03-17-2004, 07:29 AM	#34
Lauri Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tallinn- Estonia Age: 49 Posts: 99	be affraid Keith ! They are faking this ensv ülemnõukogu badges like grazy in Tallinn and quality is exellent!

03-31-2004, 10:10 PM	#35
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Yes, I can attest to that. I've seen them, and they are quite good. There is just one minor detail on the fakes, that I am not going to disclose :) Alexei

04-03-2004, 06:02 PM	#37
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Charlet, I also believe this badge is a fake - it has problems with the enamel, that you had mentioned, the flag pole is not quite right, and I don't like the screwpost attachement. Alexei

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