Miner's Visor Cap

Tretov · 01-15-2007, 06:24 PM

Would this be a cap for a officer of the naval aviation, given that the cap lacks wings in the crown?

willie777 · 01-15-2007, 07:32 PM

A naval aviation cap would have a VMF cockade...

Tretov · 01-15-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by willie777

A naval aviation cap would have a VMF cockade...

Yes, might be... but since it lacks the wings, it is possible that the cap is a unissued item onto which the seller (it is on e!) has smashed whatever he had on hand. I am mostly interested in the colours.

willie777 · 01-15-2007, 08:07 PM

Also, Im pretty sure all officers of the navy (aviation and infantry and line) wore the same cap. Sorry to disappoint you.

Dzerzhinsky · 01-15-2007, 10:05 PM

I believe this hat was issued to coal mining service personnel. The badge for this branch is completely different than the parade example on this hat. If you provided a pic of the inside, that would help. The officers hats have a black velvet band.

Lapa · 01-16-2007, 03:40 AM

Tretov,

Isn't this cap a Russian issue rather than a Soviet one?

Marc

Tretov · 01-16-2007, 08:16 AM

I am not sure, I just associated the colours to the naval aviation. If it is coal mining, I was in the completely wrong direction :D The diamond shaped shield inside says 1986.

Dzerzhinsky · 01-16-2007, 09:36 PM

:thumbsup Yes, the label coincides with the hat I have handled. It seems to be a visor worn by personnel of the coal mining industry. If my word does not suffice, you might want to check out Under the Red Star, which is a website by Randy Stewart to educate collectors concerning 1945-1991 Soviet visors.

Synthesis · 01-21-2007, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzerzhinsky

:thumbsup Yes, the label coincides with the hat I have handled. It seems to be a visor worn by personnel of the coal mining industry. If my word does not suffice, you might want to check out Under the Red Star, which is a website by Randy Stewart to educate collectors concerning 1945-1991 Soviet visors.

A very handy website--though the cap is quite nice, nonetheless. For some reason, I was under the impression that coal-industry caps had an older, "teller" shape to them, not to sort of pointed shape you'd see in later Army caps.

Esteban_cool · 01-21-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by willie777

Also, Im pretty sure all officers of the navy (aviation and infantry and line) wore the same cap. Sorry to disappoint you.

Are you sure?

But if not, wouldn´t a NAO cap have even a slight detail that could make it different from regular navy and naval infantry? piping, perhaps?

01-15-2007, 10:05 PM	#5
Dzerzhinsky Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 44	Hat I believe this hat was issued to coal mining service personnel. The badge for this branch is completely different than the parade example on this hat. If you provided a pic of the inside, that would help. The officers hats have a black velvet band. __________________ "The ideal Chekist is a man with a warm heart, cool head and clean hands." "We stand for organised terror . . . Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution . . . The Cheka is obliged to defend the revolution and conquer the enemy even if its sword does by chance sometimes fall on the heads of the innocent." Felix Dzerzhinsky

01-16-2007, 09:36 PM	#8
Dzerzhinsky Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 44	Label :thumbsup Yes, the label coincides with the hat I have handled. It seems to be a visor worn by personnel of the coal mining industry. If my word does not suffice, you might want to check out Under the Red Star, which is a website by Randy Stewart to educate collectors concerning 1945-1991 Soviet visors. __________________ "The ideal Chekist is a man with a warm heart, cool head and clean hands." "We stand for organised terror . . . Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution . . . The Cheka is obliged to defend the revolution and conquer the enemy even if its sword does by chance sometimes fall on the heads of the innocent." Felix Dzerzhinsky

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01-15-2007, 07:32 PM	#2
willie777 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 392	A naval aviation cap would have a VMF cockade...

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willie777 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 392	Also, Im pretty sure all officers of the navy (aviation and infantry and line) wore the same cap. Sorry to disappoint you.

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Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Tretov, Isn't this cap a Russian issue rather than a Soviet one? Marc

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