Suspensions, Ribbons, Ribbon Bars And Order Of Precedence.

[Tretov]

Ribbons were worn on the parade uniform when used as a parade-walkout uniform. I do not know if the regulations were so specific as to whether the ribbons should be sewn-on or made from metal with separately attached ribbons, but at least the plastic covered metal backed cloth ribbon bars were used for civilian clothing only.

In his recent book, Streather states that regulations called for the ribbons to be sewn-on, but I would not really want to make such categorical statements.

Pics:
1. Gagarin wearing pinback ribbon bars on his service uniform
2. Some Infantry or MVD colonel wearing a pinback ribbon bar on the M69 parade uniform.

In this thread, http://soviet-awards.com/forum/sovie...ieutenant.html, John Holmes is wearing a single pinback "70th anniversary of the Soviet armed forces" on his service jacket.

[Al-muell]

No uniform regulations I have read seem to state which style is correct. The sewn-on ones look better, but the pin-back ones are more practical - the ribbons were to be worn on firld, every-day and walking-out uniforms, so one would need three sets of them, and since many servicemen had only one uniform as parade/walking-out it would be hard for them to remove the sewn-on ribbons every time they needed a parade uniform (with the actual awards).

[medals73]

I shall freedly admit to having an inter-holiday "stupid moment", but I need help from the Assembled Wise Ones.

As part of a trove of ribbons (mostly PDRA) that I was directed to by a helpful forum comrade (thanks again!), some mysteries were included. I know that I recall seeing som of these somewhere, but the synapses are not connecting. Help!!

All are the standard 24-mm "Soviet" width. I have numbred them (1-16) for "easy" reference.

All IDs of these problem children are appreciated. Thanks in advance! :thumbsup

[medals73]

Thanks! So, here's where we stand.

1-
2- Russia, 100 years since the birth of V. G. Grabin (For merit in development of weapons and military equipment) (Unofficial)
3- Russia, 40 years of the 7th nuclear submarine division 1965–2005 (Unofficial)
4- Russia, Federal Customs Service medal for Distinguished Service, 1st class
5- Russia, Federal Customs Service Medal for Valor
6- Transnistria (PMR), Medal "10 Years of The PMR"
7- Russia, MVD Medal for Military Valor
8- Russia, souvenir medal of the nuclear submarine Kursk (Unofficial)
9- Transnistria (PMR), Medal "For Meritorious Service"
10- Russia, Commemorative Medal for 200 years of the MVD
11- Romania, Medal for Service to Socialist Country, Gold Grade (1st Class)
12- Russia, Medal of Merit for Special Forces Snipers (unofficial)
13- Russia, Medal for the Defense of Transnistria (Cossack)
14- Russia, Order "Friendship"
15- Russia, State Messenger Service Medal "For Impeccable Service", 1st Class
16- Russia, MVD medal for Bravery during a Fire

[CtahhR]

#10 was also used for some "Organisation" award (if not more than one) but with the number of non-federal RF awards out there today I'm surprised they've not started using colours outside the visual spectrum.

[medals73]

Originally Posted by CtahhR

#10 was also used for some "Organisation" award (if not more than one) but with the number of non-federal RF awards out there today I'm surprised they've not started using colours outside the visual spectrum.

Yes, there is a lot of recycling of ribbons, for example a lot of PDRA ribbons show up on post-Soviet quasi- and un-official things. Maybe that is where the stocks of those ribbons went?

And I thought that some of the color schemes being used already transcend the visual range, especially the quirky unbalanced (in all senses of the word) ribbons.

[CtahhR]

It probably is where lots of left over ribbon went as the quality on the "Organisation" awards are usually par with the state and ministerial awards. Some unofficial awards (such as the anniversary of St. Petersburg synagogue) come with a different ribbon almost ever time. It may well be because they could only get so much of each left over ribbon rather than some other "magical" reason that some dealers may attribute to it.

No doubt now the ministerial service medals have a new ribbon design the old ones will be on unofficial awards with 3 "classes".

[travel-north]

What is the correct sequence for Defense of/Liberation medals?

[Lapa]

Travel-North,

If you are talking about the order of precedence, then it is as follows:
орден Ленина;
орден Октябрьской Революции;
орден Красного Знамени;
орден Трудового Красного Знамени;
орден Дружбы народов;
орден «Знак Почета»;
орден «За личное мужество»;
орден Славы I степени;
орден Славы II степени;
орден Славы III степени;
орден Трудовой славы I степени;
орден Трудовой славы II степени;
орден Трудовой славы III степени;
медаль «За отвагу»;
медаль Ушакова;
медаль «За боевые заслуги»;
медаль Нахимова;
медаль «За трудовую доблесть»;
медаль «За трудовое отличие»;
медаль «Партизану Отечественной войны» I степени;
медаль «Партизану Отечественной войны» II степени;
медаль «За отличие в охране государственной границы СССР»;
медаль «За отличную службу по охране общественного порядка»;
медаль «За отвагу на пожаре»;
медаль «За спасение утопающих»;
медаль «За оборону Ленинграда»;
медаль «За оборону Москвы»;
медаль «За оборону Одессы»;
медаль «За оборону Севастополя»;
медаль «За оборону Сталинграда»;
медаль «За оборону Киева»;
медаль «За оборону Кавказа»;
медаль «За оборону Советского Заполярья»;
медаль «За победу над Германией в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»;
юбилейная медаль «Двадцать лет победы в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»
юбилейная медаль «Тридцать лет победы в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»;
юбилейная медаль «Сорок лет победы в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»;
медаль «За победу над Японией»;
медаль «За взятие Будапешта»;
медаль «За взятие Кенигсберга»;
медаль «За взятие Вены»;
медаль «За взятие Берлина»;
медаль «За освобождение Белграда»;
медаль «За освобождение Варшавы»;
медаль «За освобождение Праги»;
медаль «За доблестный труд в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-1945»;
медаль «Ветеран труда»;
медаль «Ветеран Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
медаль «За укрепление боевого содружества»;
медаль «За восстановление предприятий черной металлургии Юга»;
медаль «За восстановление угольных шахт Донбасса»;
медаль «За освоение целинных земель»;
медаль «За строительство Байкало-Амурской магистрали»;
медаль «За преобразование Нечерноземья РСФСР»;
медаль «За освоение недр и развитие нефтегазового комплекса Западной Сибири»;
юбилейная медаль «XX лет РККА»;
юбилейная медаль «XXX лет Советской Армии и Флота»;
юбилейная медаль «40 лет Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
юбилейная медаль «50 лет Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
юбилейная медаль «60 лет Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
юбилейная медаль «70 лет Вооруженных Сил СССР»;
юбилейная медаль «50 лет Советской милиции»;
медаль «В память 800-летия Москвы»;
медаль «В память 250-летия Ленинграда»;
медаль «В память 1500-летия Киева»;
медаль «За безупречную службу» I степени;
медаль «За безупречную службу» II степени;
медаль «За безупречную службу» III степени.

Marc

[travel-north]

Thanks. If this how a veteran would normally wear his awards?