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Old 09-29-2006, 10:20 AM   #1
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Imperial Russian Dagger.

The dagger lloks beautiful, but ... seeing what this dealer has for sale (too many fakes), I am not sure about this one.
Two orders on one dagger - is it possible?
Condition of almost 100 years old dagger?
Are these orders original, even the dagger was restored and looks original it self?

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Old 09-29-2006, 10:21 AM   #2
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Old 09-29-2006, 10:23 AM   #3
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There's more Fakes than real of these...

I'd have to hold it to tell you if it's OK. The 2 orders is indeed weird.

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Eric,

I think it was probably put together with some old and new parts with fake badges. A good indicator is the leather washer - looks completely new and the edge is too rough.

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Thanks Alexei, Rusty
I had the same feeling. In addition to all indicators you stated, my another reason was also - "staff" this guy sells - 99% fakes.

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What about this dagger?
Is it authentic?
The dagger is probably authentic, but my concern is Nikolay II monogram.
Is the Monogram authentic?
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Any ideas? :)
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Eric,

I am not an expert in edged weapons, but I would stay away from it. The monogram is indeed crude, but I also don't like the tang button, and the brass piece, holding the grip on the gross guard side. I have seen a similar piece with a blade made of the Mosin-Nagant bayo.

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Thanks Alexei :)

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