Marshal Of Artillery Uniform.

vikingraider1 · 10-10-2003, 06:17 AM

I have just come across a picture of a Soviet NKVD general (?) and noticed that he is wearing a 1943 pattern Wave Green tunic but it is single breasted. I was not aware that these tunics were manufactured with a single breasted design. Can anybody shed any light on the matter - (Doug?).
I know there was a single breasted grey uniform for general officers and marshals before 1943 but judging from the photograph I would say that this one is definately Wave Green.

DougD · 10-10-2003, 07:43 AM

The photo on the right is not an NKVD general ( to see their uniforms see my thread on them) but rather is a marshal of artillery wearing a M1943 parade uniform.

While these uniforms look like they are identical to M1945 VP uniforms, they are not. They are steel grey and generals ( not marshals ) had cuff bars and not cuff embroidery. A lso, the M1943 was single breasted, not double.

Also, note he is wearing a brach marshals star.

DougD
ps-although there was not wave green M1943 uniform , there is at least one known example of a wave green M1940 parade tunic in a private collection in moscow. Why it was made ( it was worn) is uknown.

vikingraider1 · 10-10-2003, 09:38 AM

Thanks Doug, The reason I said it was an NKVD general was that it appeared in a book about the NKVD. Admittedly I don't have this book, just happend to see it on Ebay.
I thought it looked too dark for the M1943 Marshals parade tunic judging by the photograph though.

DougD · 10-10-2003, 10:47 AM

...are really tough to find, I have only ever seen a few, and they were in older Russian language publications.

DougD

vikingraider1 · 10-10-2003, 11:16 AM

Doug,
This was from a Russian book. I have enclosed the cover, maybe you are familiar with it.

Sorry! Just realised this is for both Army and NKVD uniforms....here is a section of the illustrations.

DougD · 10-10-2003, 12:56 PM

Yup, I have this small guide; good drawings, but not a huge lot of good original photos.

DougD

10-10-2003, 07:43 AM	#2
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 51 Posts: 2,060	Marshal of Artillery The photo on the right is not an NKVD general ( to see their uniforms see my thread on them) but rather is a marshal of artillery wearing a M1943 parade uniform. While these uniforms look like they are identical to M1945 VP uniforms, they are not. They are steel grey and generals ( not marshals ) had cuff bars and not cuff embroidery. A lso, the M1943 was single breasted, not double. Also, note he is wearing a brach marshals star. DougD ps-although there was not wave green M1943 uniform , there is at least one known example of a wave green M1940 parade tunic in a private collection in moscow. Why it was made ( it was worn) is uknown.

10-10-2003, 09:38 AM	#3
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	Thanks Doug, The reason I said it was an NKVD general was that it appeared in a book about the NKVD. Admittedly I don't have this book, just happend to see it on Ebay. I thought it looked too dark for the M1943 Marshals parade tunic judging by the photograph though. __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

10-10-2003, 10:47 AM	#4
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 51 Posts: 2,060	original NKVD generals photos... ...are really tough to find, I have only ever seen a few, and they were in older Russian language publications. DougD

10-10-2003, 12:56 PM	#6
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 51 Posts: 2,060	/// Yup, I have this small guide; good drawings, but not a huge lot of good original photos. DougD

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