Serial number Soviet daggers

kabier · 07-10-2009, 10:32 AM

Hi, I have 2 Sovjet Marine/ Naval parade daggers, both 1989 marked
Daggers have serial number: 227909 and 227857
Does anyone know from who worn them?? Greetings Kabier

Commissar · 07-10-2009, 04:11 PM

The daggers, to my knowledge were handed out by the Soviet armouries to officers for ceremonial purposes and supposedly they were given back afterwards as they were technically property of the state and all...
At least I think thats how it worked or works.

I'd wait for a more...knowledgeable answer from a member with more brains. ;)

DougD · 07-22-2009, 03:25 PM

Kabier,

Welcome to the forum.

Daggers had serial numbers, like orders, but unlike orders, they can not be traced to the original owner.

DougD

Kirchgoens · 07-22-2009, 10:04 PM

I have a former Soviet army officer working for me, and this is how he explained it: up until some time in the early 80's, officers received the dagger as part of their commissioning. Later, the practice stopped except for naval officers. In his case, he was a junior Army officer in the late 80's and was not going to receive one, so he purchased his and still has it.

I have a dagger with the "attestat" doc that lists who it was issued to in 1959 to a reserve major in the Samarkand city VK. I'm sure Doug is right that you can't research them, but you might be lucky to pick one up where the family kept the paperwork.

deValcourt · 07-23-2009, 11:23 AM

I never did really understand how that worked. My boss in Moscow gave me his for one of my birthdays (and we used it to open lots of "champansky") but his is marked 1991 and still has the star on the pommel. The blade is beautifully engraved and I don't think he reached the naval equivalent level of army major because he was an NCO, so I guess he bought it. To tell you the truth, I never thought about it before.
Phillip

deValcourt · 07-26-2009, 12:38 PM

A correction to the above post. I pulled the dagger out of the closet and it is dated 1993 on the blade with "БУЛАМ" or BULAT depending on how you read the script. The serial number is a 6-digit one: 259877. There is no H&S anywhere, but the star is still prominent on the pommel.

Phillip

07-10-2009, 10:32 AM	#1
kabier New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1	Serial number Soviet daggers Hi, I have 2 Sovjet Marine/ Naval parade daggers, both 1989 marked Daggers have serial number: 227909 and 227857 Does anyone know from who worn them?? Greetings Kabier

07-10-2009, 04:11 PM	#2
Commissar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 424	re: Serial number Soviet daggers The daggers, to my knowledge were handed out by the Soviet armouries to officers for ceremonial purposes and supposedly they were given back afterwards as they were technically property of the state and all... At least I think thats how it worked or works. I'd wait for a more...knowledgeable answer from a member with more brains. ;)

07-22-2009, 03:25 PM	#3
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	re: Serial number Soviet daggers Kabier, Welcome to the forum. Daggers had serial numbers, like orders, but unlike orders, they can not be traced to the original owner. DougD

07-22-2009, 10:04 PM	#4
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 57 Posts: 351	Re: Serial number Soviet daggers I have a former Soviet army officer working for me, and this is how he explained it: up until some time in the early 80's, officers received the dagger as part of their commissioning. Later, the practice stopped except for naval officers. In his case, he was a junior Army officer in the late 80's and was not going to receive one, so he purchased his and still has it. I have a dagger with the "attestat" doc that lists who it was issued to in 1959 to a reserve major in the Samarkand city VK. I'm sure Doug is right that you can't research them, but you might be lucky to pick one up where the family kept the paperwork.

07-23-2009, 11:23 AM	#5
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Serial number Soviet daggers I never did really understand how that worked. My boss in Moscow gave me his for one of my birthdays (and we used it to open lots of "champansky") but his is marked 1991 and still has the star on the pommel. The blade is beautifully engraved and I don't think he reached the naval equivalent level of army major because he was an NCO, so I guess he bought it. To tell you the truth, I never thought about it before. Phillip __________________ Phillip

07-26-2009, 12:38 PM	#6
deValcourt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cajun Country Age: 56 Posts: 1,565	Re: Serial number Soviet daggers A correction to the above post. I pulled the dagger out of the closet and it is dated 1993 on the blade with "БУЛАМ" or BULAT depending on how you read the script. The serial number is a 6-digit one: 259877. There is no H&S anywhere, but the star is still prominent on the pommel. Phillip __________________ Phillip

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