Shopping for the Order of Victory - Page 3

Nota Bene · 10-01-2002, 06:49 PM

Tal,

Copies #3 are made in Moscow by my jeweller when he is sober. They are quite nice, but probably the worst on the market. Here are more detailed scans:

The Mezhnumismatica box is from a set of Soviet coins.

Alexei

Dave · 07-03-2003, 07:52 PM

Back in 1993-1994, a US dealer had a copy Order of Victory at a show. I took a look at it and it was absolutely breathtaking. I've seen about 10-12 fake Victories, and those literally look like dirt compared to this one that the fellow had. He was asking $5000 for it at the time. I don't know what the acutal precious metal/stone content was, but I would probably say that a good portion of it was either real, or very close look-alike. I just wish I had a photo of it...

--Dave

rboomsma · 01-01-2006, 05:06 PM

Bought this Beautiful Order of Victory Patch today.
Thought I would share it with you, it is 5 inches in width, so it is quite large, will look good in my display cabinet.

order of glory · 01-01-2006, 05:16 PM

Ron,
I had my eye on that, but did not bid. I am glad it found a good home.
LREmery

rboomsma · 01-01-2006, 05:42 PM

Thanks, it has found a good home.

I have seen similar patches, but much smaller and not near as nice.

It is the closest I will get to having the real thing, although I did get a chance to look at real one in Moscow. Nothing like the real thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by order of glory

Ron,
I had my eye on that, but did not bid. I am glad it found a good home.
LREmery

Bobsammer · 12-23-2002, 05:28 PM

From set of copies - Order "Victory" there is no precisely (under the image) repeating the original. I would like to show the present image of an award. This picture is exposed by Hermitage.

I do translation with http://www.hermitage.ru/html_Ru/03/hm3_7_3e.html

Order "Victory"
Platinum, gold, silver, brilliants, enamel, corundum’s
Order "Victory" – maximum award for military leader, an award founded during Great Patriotic war by November 8, 1943. With this award was awarded 17 men, from them 5 - foreigners. Three men were awarded with an award twice. The names awarded by this award are brought on a special memorial board established in Large Kremlin Palace.
It is a sole Soviet award, which was produced not on a Monetary yard, and was made in the jewelry workshop.
http://www.hermitage.ru/html_Ru/03/hm3_7_3.html

The basic part of awards and medals USSR was sent from Monetary yard, since 1930 years. A set of awards is shown in initial samples and variants. The special interesting group is represented awards founded during Great Patriotic war and among them a order Victory, made by a jeweler way and received a museum in 1985 to 40-year of a Victory. Last large updating of collection became the complete set of the current awards of Russia in quantity 101 pieces.

***Art*** · 12-23-2002, 05:40 PM

The Hermitage Museum site is well done. They also offer an English version here. This is the English version of the Order of Victory page shown above:

The Hermitage Museum

Soviet · 08-29-2006, 01:28 PM

Was it the real thing what I have seen at the Soviet Armed Forces Museum in Moscow?

Christophe · 08-29-2006, 01:52 PM

Hi Bryan,

Nice pic. I believe no awarded Order of Victory is at the Soviet Armed Forces Museum, so this should be "museum copy". Can you confirm it ?

Cheers.

Ch.

Soviet · 08-29-2006, 02:29 PM

No I can't confirm it, but considering the display I thought it wasn't the real thing.

Oh and here is the ceiling of the Hall of Glory at the Victory museum in Moscow. It could make a nice avatar

EDIT: Last picture is from outside of the museum.

12-23-2002, 05:40 PM	#7
*Art* Forum Founder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Age: 58 Posts: 1,646	The Hermitage Museum site is well done. They also offer an English version here. This is the English version of the Order of Victory page shown above: The Hermitage Museum __________________ Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ Important Links: Forum announcements and rules \| Image posting FAQ Last edited by Art; 12-23-2002 at 05:46 PM.

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07-03-2003, 07:52 PM	#2
Dave Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Age: 49 Posts: 700	Back in 1993-1994, a US dealer had a copy Order of Victory at a show. I took a look at it and it was absolutely breathtaking. I've seen about 10-12 fake Victories, and those literally look like dirt compared to this one that the fellow had. He was asking $5000 for it at the time. I don't know what the acutal precious metal/stone content was, but I would probably say that a good portion of it was either real, or very close look-alike. I just wish I had a photo of it... --Dave

01-01-2006, 05:16 PM	#4
order of glory Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Age: 76 Posts: 71	Ron, I had my eye on that, but did not bid. I am glad it found a good home. LREmery

08-29-2006, 01:52 PM	#9
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris - Berlin Age: 61 Posts: 1,208	Hi Bryan, Nice pic. I believe no awarded Order of Victory is at the Soviet Armed Forces Museum, so this should be "museum copy". Can you confirm it ? Cheers. Ch.

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