Soviet Patches Collection 1947-92

[centaur32]

Here's my KGB Border Troops "CCCP" patch, as referred to above.

[russiamilitaria]

Originally Posted by centaur32

Alex: Here's the scans you asked for.....I think.

Nice patches!
Patch with "МВД СССР" title - USSR period production.
Patches without "МВД СССР" title were made after collapse of USSR in the beginning of 1990th (after 1991)

[russiamilitaria]

Originally Posted by centaur32

G'day Alex,
Thanks for your critique of my collection. I just have a couple questions regarding your comments and some observations of my own.
1) VDV on Green (DShMG): What exactly do you mean by,"Have a look at details of hammer, sickle, star etc."? What is wrong here?
2) I have ГО patches on khaki and grey, with the letters in red and yellow. The CCCP on green was observed by a friend of mine in the '70s & '80s.
3) Like the CCCP on green, the CCCP on cornflower blue was seen, as well.
4) The CD, Medical and Rescue patches exist on red, black, and Maroon. Thanks for the kind comments about the hand-embroidered patches on red. The Medical patch on a magenta/brown/maroon (take your pick) was seen in 1975 and mine is thermal moulded latex on a felt-like base fabric with a khaki cloth backing.
5) It is thermal moulded latex.
6) Yes, I'll post the scans below. I've always had my doubts about the "ВВ" patch.
7) It's also thermal moulded latex.
8) Thanks.

Hello Jim!
I'd like to give you answers to some questions now...
1) Details of all new-made Soviet patches (hammer, sickle, star etc.) are very accurate. Details of hammer, sickle, star at yours VDV on Green are so high accurate made.
2) "ГО" is Civil Defense (as it was told by desantnik), so any colored patches (like "ГО" at green, deep blue, maroon - for "Border Guards", "KGB", "MVD") are impossible!
3) About "СССР" patches I'd like to answer later.
4) "The CD, Medical and Rescue patches exist on red, black, and Maroon. /.../ The Medical patch on a magenta/brown/maroon (take your pick) was seen in 1975 and mine is thermal moulded latex on a felt-like base fabric with a khaki cloth backing". I'd liko to answer to this post later too.
5) Did you mean under "thermal moulded latex" fabric production?

[russiamilitaria]

Originally Posted by russiamilitaria

Hello Jim!
2) "ГО" is Civil Defense (as it was told by desantnik), so any colored patches (like "ГО" at green, deep blue, maroon - for "Border Guards", "KGB", "MVD") are impossible!

In USSR there were really existed "ГО" patches like these ones - with khaki underlayer. Material of underlayer can be cloth or even resin! These patches are from one package from abandoned Soviet Civil Defense post.

By the way does anybody know about uniform for "ГО" patches? :)

[russiamilitaria]

Originally Posted by russiamilitaria

In USSR there were really existed "ГО" patches like these ones - with khaki underlayer. Material of underlayer can be cloth or even resin! These patches are from one package from abandoned Soviet Civil Defense post.

Plastic/resin patches.

[russiamilitaria]

Originally Posted by russiamilitaria

Hello Jim!
1) Details of all new-made Soviet patches (hammer, sickle, star etc.) are very accurate. Details of hammer, sickle, star at yours VDV on Green are so high accurate made.

In addition: Please have a look at http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...omparison.html
Very representable!

[pastfinder]

Centaur32,

I have the same two patches, and both of mine are marked as well. I've never seen a fantasy patch marked in such a way. If these are fake, why bother stamping them at all when the average person wouldn't know what it means anyways?

Pastfinder

[desantnik]

The "GO" patch is for Civil Defense. It makes absolutely no sense to have a green border guard civil defense patch.

[centaur32]

Originally Posted by desantnik

The "GO" patch is for Civil Defense. It makes absolutely no sense to have a green border guard civil defense patch.

G'day Paul,

Thanks for your comment. Yes, I am well aware of what "ГО" represents. However, where is it written that anything that happened in the Soviet Union had to make sense? The facts are that these patches exist, they were manufactured exactly to the same standard as other "accepted-as-genuine" patches of the same era, and are BOEHTOPГ price stamped 72 kopeks. The other fact is that my "ГО" patch was purchased by an individual, at the factory, in bulk, in Russia, in 1989. What would make no sense would be to ignore, or discount these facts. You know the old saying,"If it looks like a duck, etc, etc, etc." What does it take to convince you skeptics that a particular Soviet is genuine? Even Alexey Stepanov admits that there were patches produced and in use that were not backed by official orders. Unfortunately, Soviet patches are not as well documented as, say, Soviet Orders, Decorations, and Medals. So, Soviet patch collecting is not as cut-and-dried as other Soviet hobbies.

Why is it that, apparently, the majority of forum members will accept a "Dembel" patch as genuine, seemingly without question or reservation, but other patches, such as the Air Assault Troops (VDV) patch, are immediately labeled as either fakes or fantasy pieces? Interesting.....No? This is especially interesting when One considers that some "Dembel" patches would be relatively easily faked.

Best regards,

Jim

[centaur32]

Alex, Doug, & Marc,

Boy! Did I throw the cat amongst the pigeons?....or What?

Thanks for your comments guys and I will answer each one of you over the next few days but right now I just don't have the time. Sorry.

I will just say to Marc that my comments were, in no way, meant to denigrate either the Soviet Union or the Russian Federation. I have close family in the RF. If I offended you, I sincerely apologise.

Best regards guys,

Jim