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Old 05-25-2008, 12:01 AM   #31
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There were general rank KGB officers; for example, I owned the uniform+photo group of General-Lieutnant V.I. Petrov of the Belarus SSR KGB for a while.
I stand corrected. I'm used to the idea of Generals in the NKVD, but then Army Generals holding general-level ranks (not necessarily actual Major Generals or anything) in the KGB. Thus, in their pictures, they're wearing their Army Generals uniforms--not a rarity.

Quite a find to own that uniform, nice one! Is the pipping on it royal blue?
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Old 05-25-2008, 03:14 AM   #32
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I stand corrected. I'm used to the idea of Generals in the NKVD, but then Army Generals holding general-level ranks (not necessarily actual Major Generals or anything) in the KGB. Thus, in their pictures, they're wearing their Army Generals uniforms--not a rarity.

Quite a find to own that uniform, nice one! Is the pipping on it royal blue?
No, it was piped in red, infantry red. Still to see is an authentic KGB general uniform piped in blue, indeed.
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Old 05-25-2008, 06:01 AM   #33
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No, it was piped in red, infantry red. Still to see is an authentic KGB general uniform piped in blue, indeed.
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As far as I know, from regulations and from talking with the curator of the Secret Police Museum here in StP, royal blue piping was used up to and including the rank of Polkovnik. Once reaching General's level, piping was standard red. As such, royal blue piped KGB general's uniforms are an incongruity.

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Old 05-25-2008, 06:37 AM   #34
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As far as I know, from regulations and from talking with the curator of the Secret Police Museum here in StP, royal blue piping was used up to and including the rank of Polkovnik. Once reaching General's level, piping was standard red. As such, royal blue piped KGB general's uniforms are an incongruity.

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I agree.
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As far as I know, from regulations and from talking with the curator of the Secret Police Museum here in StP, royal blue piping was used up to and including the rank of Polkovnik. Once reaching General's level, piping was standard red. As such, royal blue piped KGB general's uniforms are an incongruity.

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Add to the fact about the uncertainty about the accompanying cap--would it just be an Army Generals cap, or something different?
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Synthesis,

There is no uncertainty here: regular red piping with red band.

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But I have seen general parade, parade/walking-out and service caps with blue piping.
Would that be blue piping in a red piping uniform?
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Please post pictures of those; I have not seen them and the curator of the Secret Police Museum in StP has not either.

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Sorry for letting that detail go.
Pics are from undertheredstar.com, Randall Stewart´s site.
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I'd say they are all post-soviet productions from Ukraine. As stated earlier in the thread, there is no references, evidences or other information that would give that general rank personell wore this kind of royal blue uniform combinations.

I have seen a fully medaled parade uniform of a KGB general, they even gave me a name; but again, the set was hanging on the wall rather than being worn in a photo.
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