Partisan Commemorative 1941. - Page 3

charlet · 12-07-2005, 06:26 AM

such a black patina although no wear traces...

Dejan · 12-07-2005, 07:29 AM

Both types second types variation.You have three variations of that type-screwback,early horizontal pin type early revoked and late horizontal made type.Also maker marks different.Until 12000 range you have BK and IKOM marked and also duck in a square.Late ones only IKOM marks.

Good one and nothing wrong whit it.As Rusty said they were mostly returned so...One day someone find a catch of them and market is flooded.But also there is 60% of them damaged (enamel) or something missing.You have to understand that these were awarded during the war 1944-45 and fighters wore them whit pride in combat.So that's why there is so much damaged pieces.About the price it is always on you to decide is it high or low.But 100$ for very good (no damage) piece is reasonable for me.
Regards
Dejan

Soviet · 12-07-2005, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by new world

What makes you think it's not real?

Actually nothing to my knowledge. It's just that you said it's one of the rarest Yugoslavian awards and I see 3 for sales on eBay this week. So it must not be that rare or there are replica.

new world · 12-07-2005, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejan

Both types second types variation.You have three variations of that type-screwback,early horizontal pin type early revorked and late horizontal made type.Also maker marks different.Until 12000 range you have BK and IKOM marked and also duck in a square.Late ones only IKOM marks.
Regards
Dejan

Dejan,

Wow, that some useful info you have on the variations!

It's good to have you here on the Forum, you are definitely great contributor!

Thanks,
William

Dejan · 12-10-2005, 10:14 AM

Ok lets try again.
You have ALLWAYS and almost on all order types-screwback,large or small disc,vertical pin one type and horizotal pins two forks sistem type.Type one which is same as on partisan award we see in that thread and second,early type also two forks sistem-one simmilar but different type of catch or closing sistem I dont know exact word for that.Also I seen few times vertical two fork sistem pin on Order for Labor I class,what is realy unusual but in existance.Second unusual type of that same order is also two screws on back positioned one above another whit two small discs.That second two screws is early type and vertical one is late seventies early eighties type.Ups yes I forget-there is also one type of Partisan stars I and II class which is revorked from screw to horizontal pin but I own only box for that type so I am not 100% is that type regular thick horizontal pin or two fork style pin???But at the end there could be also something else or some other type or variation we dont know yet...
Regards
Dejan

Dejan · 12-10-2005, 10:30 AM

No these things are not so rare but you can find them here and there.They will allways be for sale in good and in bad conditions.Also the price reflect rarity (100 USD)...If more rare or almost scarce the price would be ten times higher,so NO these are not so rare.But in past there was periode when it was hard to find these types and nowdays you can find these more easlly.At the end you can still say that first type is fifty times raer than second type.And yes I think that there is no COPYS of that order out there.
Regards
Dejan

Gunner 1 · 12-15-2005, 01:37 AM

Dejan: Would you be so kind as to translate the following Serbo-Croat words or phrases for me:
1. Zavrtanj (Zvratnj)
2. Iglu (iglom)
3. Snalom (snalu) (the "S" has the small inverted ^ over it.)
4. koje sluze za kacenje

Thanx. Gunner 1

Dejan · 12-15-2005, 04:57 AM

1.Screw version
2.Vertical pin
3.Horizontal twofork style pin
4.Which (or what) is (used) for attachment
Regards
Dejan

Mark · 12-19-2005, 04:38 AM

Hello!

I'm glad to see the growing interest in the yugoslavian awards here in the forum! Althought this will lead to higher prices on the market :)

I have a question regarding the first type of Partizanska spomenica. I have bought one a few weeks back and it has something written on the screwback but I can't read it because it's in cyrilic letters.
The examples, shown on the first side of this thread don't have those words on the screwback.

Does anyone knows what is it written. Maybe a mint mark or something?

It is something like this: H.K.M.C. and W.M.3. but I can't write exactly the same because we dont have cyrilic letters on the typing board...

Mark · 12-19-2005, 07:54 AM

I don't have a digital camera yet, so I can't provide pics. I will buy one ASAP... because I feel like I'm from the stone age :)

12-07-2005, 06:26 AM	#21
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	such a black patina although no wear traces... __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

12-07-2005, 07:29 AM	#22
Dejan Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Slovenija Age: 54 Posts: 55	Both types second types variation.You have three variations of that type-screwback,early horizontal pin type early revoked and late horizontal made type.Also maker marks different.Until 12000 range you have BK and IKOM marked and also duck in a square.Late ones only IKOM marks. Good one and nothing wrong whit it.As Rusty said they were mostly returned so...One day someone find a catch of them and market is flooded.But also there is 60% of them damaged (enamel) or something missing.You have to understand that these were awarded during the war 1944-45 and fighters wore them whit pride in combat.So that's why there is so much damaged pieces.About the price it is always on you to decide is it high or low.But 100$ for very good (no damage) piece is reasonable for me. Regards Dejan Last edited by CtahhR; 03-19-2013 at 09:27 AM.

12-10-2005, 10:14 AM	#25
Dejan Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Slovenija Age: 54 Posts: 55	Ok lets try again. You have ALLWAYS and almost on all order types-screwback,large or small disc,vertical pin one type and horizotal pins two forks sistem type.Type one which is same as on partisan award we see in that thread and second,early type also two forks sistem-one simmilar but different type of catch or closing sistem I dont know exact word for that.Also I seen few times vertical two fork sistem pin on Order for Labor I class,what is realy unusual but in existance.Second unusual type of that same order is also two screws on back positioned one above another whit two small discs.That second two screws is early type and vertical one is late seventies early eighties type.Ups yes I forget-there is also one type of Partisan stars I and II class which is revorked from screw to horizontal pin but I own only box for that type so I am not 100% is that type regular thick horizontal pin or two fork style pin???But at the end there could be also something else or some other type or variation we dont know yet... Regards Dejan Last edited by Dejan; 12-10-2005 at 10:21 AM.

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12-10-2005, 10:30 AM	#26
Dejan Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Slovenija Age: 54 Posts: 55	No these things are not so rare but you can find them here and there.They will allways be for sale in good and in bad conditions.Also the price reflect rarity (100 USD)...If more rare or almost scarce the price would be ten times higher,so NO these are not so rare.But in past there was periode when it was hard to find these types and nowdays you can find these more easlly.At the end you can still say that first type is fifty times raer than second type.And yes I think that there is no COPYS of that order out there. Regards Dejan

12-15-2005, 01:37 AM	#27
Gunner 1 New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9	Dejan: Would you be so kind as to translate the following Serbo-Croat words or phrases for me: 1. Zavrtanj (Zvratnj) 2. Iglu (iglom) 3. Snalom (snalu) (the "S" has the small inverted ^ over it.) 4. koje sluze za kacenje Thanx. Gunner 1

12-15-2005, 04:57 AM	#28
Dejan Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Slovenija Age: 54 Posts: 55	1.Screw version 2.Vertical pin 3.Horizontal twofork style pin 4.Which (or what) is (used) for attachment Regards Dejan

12-19-2005, 04:38 AM	#29
Mark Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 61	Hello! I'm glad to see the growing interest in the yugoslavian awards here in the forum! Althought this will lead to higher prices on the market :) I have a question regarding the first type of Partizanska spomenica. I have bought one a few weeks back and it has something written on the screwback but I can't read it because it's in cyrilic letters. The examples, shown on the first side of this thread don't have those words on the screwback. Does anyone knows what is it written. Maybe a mint mark or something? It is something like this: H.K.M.C. and W.M.3. but I can't write exactly the same because we dont have cyrilic letters on the typing board...

12-19-2005, 07:54 AM	#30
Mark Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 61	I don't have a digital camera yet, so I can't provide pics. I will buy one ASAP... because I feel like I'm from the stone age :)

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