Fake Badges "Excellent Workers' And Peasants' Red Army".

Nota Bene · 05-20-2002, 06:05 PM

An original 1939 Excellence in the Red Army Badge is on the left. Note the artificial patina, crude details, "shaky" lines, hammer and sickle is too thick, enamel is too dark, reverse is "mirror image", screwpost from a late issue Soviet badge is off centre. Somebody had told me that newer fakes of this badge are much better.

***Art*** · 05-20-2002, 09:32 PM

Alexei,

If I were buying these looking at the front, I would swear the one on the right looks better. They should buff off the weird applied patina though. I like the reverse of the other example. I wonder if another original ever had these details that are present in the copy?

Art

Nota Bene · 05-21-2002, 06:47 PM

There were two slightly different variations of this badge, both were supposed to have serial numbers, and for that reason had flat reverse. Only 149,106 pieces were made, so I doubt there were any unpublished variations.

Found this one on our favourite auction site. Looks like the same fake I have pictured above.

Alexei

Sergey Tamayev · 07-27-2002, 10:54 PM

Are these fakes being made in Russia or elsewhere?

Nota Bene · 07-28-2002, 03:13 PM

Sergey,

I am not sure, but I think they are Russian, because the screwposts appear to be modern Russian production.

Alexei

new world · 04-29-2003, 05:40 AM

Fakes of 1930's badges:
- Excellent RKKA,
- For excellent shooting,
- Hasan-1938's.

otlichnik · 04-30-2003, 02:37 AM

Interestingly, I picked up a fake Khasan badge, just like the one shown, in Canada way back in 1995. This seems to me to be quite early for fake badges and it must have been one of the first early badges to be faked.

Shawn

dannybou · 05-22-2005, 08:43 PM

So are original Excellent RKKA flatback and copies mirror reverse?

Nota Bene · 05-23-2005, 02:24 PM

Danny,

No, both variations exist. Flatback can also be numbered or not.

Alexei

dannybou · 11-07-2005, 11:10 AM

Here's another one for the experts. Please and thanks

05-20-2002, 09:32 PM	#2
*Art* Forum Founder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Age: 58 Posts: 1,646	Alexei, If I were buying these looking at the front, I would swear the one on the right looks better. They should buff off the weird applied patina though. I like the reverse of the other example. I wonder if another original ever had these details that are present in the copy? Art __________________ Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ Important Links: Forum announcements and rules \| Image posting FAQ

05-22-2005, 08:43 PM	#8
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	So are original Excellent RKKA flatback and copies mirror reverse? __________________ A collector from Québec!!

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07-27-2002, 10:54 PM	#4
Sergey Tamayev Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 24	Are these fakes being made in Russia or elsewhere?

07-28-2002, 03:13 PM	#5
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Sergey, I am not sure, but I think they are Russian, because the screwposts appear to be modern Russian production. Alexei

04-30-2003, 02:37 AM	#7
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	Interestingly, I picked up a fake Khasan badge, just like the one shown, in Canada way back in 1995. This seems to me to be quite early for fake badges and it must have been one of the first early badges to be faked. Shawn

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Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Danny, No, both variations exist. Flatback can also be numbered or not. Alexei

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