Fake Labour Medals - Page 3

Laurent · 08-14-2007, 04:18 AM

For sure a fake! bad S/N and incorrect "N".

Kirchgoens · 08-14-2007, 09:27 AM

My take: the serial number is bad unless the suspension was replaced circa '43; the "No" looks engraved instead of struck; the red star on the obverse should touch the border on a serial numbered version of this medal. I'm comparing this with several unnumbered medals I have and one numbered medal 39,xxx.

Lapa · 08-28-2007, 03:47 PM

Kirchgoens when through a fairly comprehensive list of reasons, so I'll simply say that I concur: FAKE :thumbsdown

Marc

Nota Bene · 09-22-2007, 03:19 PM

Guys,

I am just doing some catching up reading on the forum. I might only add that on a serial numbered variation the tip of the star should be touching the rim.

Alexei

Historian · 02-22-2008, 09:56 AM

I bought this last year from 'XXXXX': I was promised a certificate of authenticity, it was never forthcoming: I've never been 100% happy, but I'll let you guys tell me if I'm wrong. The pics are straight from his site, as mine are locked away with the rest of my collection. Cost around 11.95 gbp, aluminium type metal with no S/N. Told it was a very late issue piece, I bought an order of Honour and Red banner from him that I'm sure are pukka, but these seemed to new and shiny to me. :thumbsdown:thumbsup????

Tom

Lapa · 02-22-2008, 05:13 PM

Tom,

That medal should be made of silver, and have a struck ring.

Marc

Historian · 02-23-2008, 10:39 AM

Can't remeber it being silver, however it is not with me at the moment so can't be sure. If memory serves, it is aluminium/alloy, and not of great quality, excuse given was "Russian stuff is badly made, what do you expect!", hmmmmm not sure on that one, lol.

ATB,
Tom

Nota Bene · 02-23-2008, 03:13 PM

Tom,

When you have a chance please post some better scans of the medallion, obverse and reverse.

Alexei

Historian · 02-25-2008, 06:09 AM

Went the bank Saturday afternoon (they stayed a bit late for me to nip in), It seems heavier than I remember, however it still looks off to me at least: Let me know if the pics arn't good enough and I'll do some more.

ATB,
Tom

Lapa · 02-25-2008, 08:53 AM

Tom,

It looks strange to me. The ring should be struck with the medal, and the enamel is rather crude and off color. If you can post hi-res scans of the front and back of the medalion without the suspension, it would help.

Marc

08-14-2007, 04:18 AM	#21
Laurent Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 366	For sure a fake! bad S/N and incorrect "N". __________________ "The man who has no sense of History, is like a man who has no ears and no eyes..."

08-14-2007, 09:27 AM	#22
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 57 Posts: 351	Serial number, "No", and star on obverse... My take: the serial number is bad unless the suspension was replaced circa '43; the "No" looks engraved instead of struck; the red star on the obverse should touch the border on a serial numbered version of this medal. I'm comparing this with several unnumbered medals I have and one numbered medal 39,xxx.

02-23-2008, 10:39 AM	#27
Historian Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK, Kent Age: 38 Posts: 28	Can't remeber it being silver, however it is not with me at the moment so can't be sure. If memory serves, it is aluminium/alloy, and not of great quality, excuse given was "Russian stuff is badly made, what do you expect!", hmmmmm not sure on that one, lol. ATB, Tom __________________ Вставай, проклятьем заклеймённый, Весь мир голодных и рабов! Кипит наш разум возмущённый И в смертный бой вести готов. Весь мир насилья мы разрушим До основанья, а затем Мы наш, мы новый мир построим, — Кто был ничем, тот станет всем.

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08-28-2007, 03:47 PM	#23
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Kirchgoens when through a fairly comprehensive list of reasons, so I'll simply say that I concur: FAKE :thumbsdown Marc

09-22-2007, 03:19 PM	#24
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Guys, I am just doing some catching up reading on the forum. I might only add that on a serial numbered variation the tip of the star should be touching the rim. Alexei

02-22-2008, 05:13 PM	#26
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Tom, That medal should be made of silver, and have a struck ring. Marc

02-23-2008, 03:13 PM	#28
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Tom, When you have a chance please post some better scans of the medallion, obverse and reverse. Alexei

02-25-2008, 08:53 AM	#30
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Tom, It looks strange to me. The ring should be struck with the medal, and the enamel is rather crude and off color. If you can post hi-res scans of the front and back of the medalion without the suspension, it would help. Marc

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