Applied phaleristics - The Kingdom

Tal Inbar · 01-05-2008, 06:19 PM

Please take alook at this picture of a Saudi colonel (actor Ashraf Barhom).

Take a close look at his ribbon bar - what a joke!

He has a Soviet ribbon...

And the WW2 UK Africa Star...

Also note the Liberation of Kuwait medal, from Kuwait, but not the Saudi Arabian medal...

EricFG · 01-05-2008, 06:52 PM

Maybe he's a well-travelled mercenary?

medals73 · 01-05-2008, 07:08 PM

And a very old one mercenary, with the Queen's South Africa Medal. He has aged well.

Three British medals (one Afro-British, with the Africa Star backwards), one Polish, and one Soviet.

We could all make good money serving as advisors in the place of the idiots they seem to hire for movies!

EricFG · 01-05-2008, 07:44 PM

Oh, and speaking of "Applied phaleristics", I wonder how bad 'Charlie Wilson's War' is gonna be.

willie777 · 01-05-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EricFG

Oh, and speaking of "Applied phaleristics", I wonder how bad 'Charlie Wilson's War' is gonna be.

Pakistani generals w/ soviet ribbons?

Tom R. · 01-06-2008, 12:25 AM

I didn't pay very close attention to the ribbons, but the movie is great. A must see

ekclete · 01-06-2008, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom R.

I didn't pay very close attention to the ribbons, but the movie is great. A must see

Tom is right, it is a very entertaining movie. I did not notice a lot of errors like above but then again I do not look to hard. Thanks Clete

Eryk · 01-06-2008, 03:11 AM

Can't find any stills on the web, but the movie "Firefox" has what must be one of the silliest use of awards in Hollywood history. Fitting, seeing how silly the movie is.

In it a Soviet "General" (or some officer) enters the scene. He's wearing a HSU star. Interesting. A bit later his superior enters, and he's wearing two HSU stars. After that the head honcho officer enters and, you guessed it, he's wearing *three* HSU stars. IIRC there is a scene with a total of *six* HSU orders in the same shot.

Christophe · 01-06-2008, 04:37 AM

Sorry guys, but this thread is out of topic here...

there is none Soviet award on this bar...

The third ribbon on the first line is the French "Croix du Combattant Volontaire". See attached.

But, I agree, still in non-sense world...

Kirchgoens · 01-06-2008, 05:30 AM

Tal's note on the dude wearing the incorrect LibKuwait is, for me, the most amusing. I've got both from '91 on my uniform (as do another half million guys like me), and I have been back to Kuwait about a dozen times in the past decade along with a trip back to Saudi in '03. You see just about every Kuwaiti cop and soldier over a certain age wearing theirs, and most of the Saudi military wearing theirs. But... I've never seen them cross that boundary, so to speak. We pick up on the foreign ribbons, but I wonder what the viewing Saudis will think about so basic a mistake on their own campaign award.

01-05-2008, 06:52 PM	#2
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Maybe he's a well-travelled mercenary? __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

01-05-2008, 07:44 PM	#4
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Oh, and speaking of "Applied phaleristics", I wonder how bad 'Charlie Wilson's War' is gonna be. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

01-06-2008, 05:30 AM	#10
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 57 Posts: 351	Liberation of Kuwait... Tal's note on the dude wearing the incorrect LibKuwait is, for me, the most amusing. I've got both from '91 on my uniform (as do another half million guys like me), and I have been back to Kuwait about a dozen times in the past decade along with a trip back to Saudi in '03. You see just about every Kuwaiti cop and soldier over a certain age wearing theirs, and most of the Saudi military wearing theirs. But... I've never seen them cross that boundary, so to speak. We pick up on the foreign ribbons, but I wonder what the viewing Saudis will think about so basic a mistake on their own campaign award.

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Eryk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, USA Posts: 234	Can't find any stills on the web, but the movie "Firefox" has what must be one of the silliest use of awards in Hollywood history. Fitting, seeing how silly the movie is. In it a Soviet "General" (or some officer) enters the scene. He's wearing a HSU star. Interesting. A bit later his superior enters, and he's wearing two HSU stars. After that the head honcho officer enters and, you guessed it, he's wearing three HSU stars. IIRC there is a scene with a total of six HSU orders in the same shot.

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