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02-04-2006, 08:44 PM | #11 |
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That sounds very plausible Simon--excellent insight. :thumbsup
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As in my initial posting, I can rationalize that the OPW, due to its name was no longer handed out. Thanks for pointing out that harvesting incident - I haven't looked at MONDVOR in a long time. Interesting stuff there. As to Glory, I thought in a similar vein to you, however during limited conflicts and even secret operations, Red Banners, Red Stars, BM and CSM medals were issued AFTER the appearance of long service medals. So just how did a draftee soldier or junior officer far removed by age from the GPW explain his new, shiny award? For training accomplishments? If so, why a BRAVERY medal? If enlisted soldiers coming back from Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Afghanistan wore home their RB, RS, BM, and CSM - why wasn't the Order of Glory included among them? Maybe as you indicated there were limited awardings of the Glory that we don't know about, but then that would invalidate your explanation about embarrassing "political" considerations. Regarding Afghanistan, I guess it would be helpful if someone could produce the "instruction" you mentioned. Even if someone could produce it, would it explain my original question - WHY wasn't the Order of Glory included post-war among other combat awards? |
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02-05-2006, 04:32 PM | #13 | |
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However, I've never seen a Bravery medal given for a post-war action (save for one that you told me about for Czechoslovakia) for either labor "valor" or military combat valor. I've researched a few postwar ones, and they've all been for events stemming from WW2 or from the Revolution. Dave |
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02-07-2006, 08:47 AM | #16 |
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If the Order of Glory was awarded post-war for a border incident, maybe there was a written/unwritten understanding that it would only be awarded for actions defending the Rodina. The other awards I've mentioned and more frequently awarded for post-war actions may have been relegated to "internationalist" duties. Just a thought.
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02-15-2006, 07:13 AM | #17 |
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Included among the Russian-language research material I've gathered for my forthcoming book is documentation confirming the award of the Order of Glory 2nd Class for valor in North Korea in 1950 (for action against American forces). Regards, slava1stclass |
02-15-2006, 11:41 AM | #18 |
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Allrighty then, we've got a documented Glory awarded for Korea and a rumored one as late as the USSR-China border incident. Nice find. Maybe there is something to researching all those late issue Glories and expecting something more than an award for wounds received. Somewhere along the line these ceased being awarded, however. I can say with almost 100% veracity that Glories weren't awarded during Afghanistan. Will your book add anything as to if/when Glories stopped being awarded for present acts of valor and not retroactive ones or wounds?
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02-16-2006, 09:46 AM | #19 |
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I'm having a bunch of late Glories researched right now... we'll see if any of them come back for something "interesting" or if they're going to be a lot of delayed wartime awards...
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