Fake Academy Badges

Nota Bene · 05-28-2002, 06:06 PM

These are very commonly faked. Fakes are usually brand new without any wear traces, made of some sort of white alloy, nice enamel, Soviet crest is quite detailed, shields with academy names are just glued to the badge.

Tal Inbar · 06-06-2002, 08:00 AM

Alexei,

In a genuine badge, how the shields with academy names are attached?

BTW, It is possible to take an authentic badge without a shield and just attach a shield.

Tal

CZ · 06-06-2002, 11:52 AM

Alexei,

so all academy badges with glued on shields are fakes?

Regards from Vienna

Nota Bene · 06-06-2002, 05:17 PM

Tal,

Here's the back of an original badge.

I suppose it would be possible to attach a shield to a genuine old badge, but since old badges are not cheap it just makes more sence to make them from the scratch.

Alexei

Quote:

Originally posted by Tal Inbar
Alexei,

In a genuine badge, how the shields with academy names are attached?

BTW, It is possible to take an authentic badge without a shield and just attach a shield.

Tal

***Art*** · 06-06-2002, 05:20 PM

My back is similar, however it has a square screwpost base, and the wreath is fastened with a rivet. The sheild is fastened the exact same way though.

Thanks Alexei!

Art

Nota Bene · 06-06-2002, 05:24 PM

Christian,

I was thinking about it, and the answer is no. They have dropped those shields in 1957, and the military was not happy about it so there were some customer made shields attached to badges in different ways.

By the way, Russian collectors think that 64 different official shield variations exist.

Alexei

Quote:

Originally posted by Christian Zulus
Alexei,

so all academy badges with glued on shields are fakes?

Regards from Vienna

new world · 08-24-2002, 07:36 PM

I recently received couple of these graduation badges. It looks like they posibly fall into Alexei's decription of fakes.

What do you think?

Nota Bene · 08-25-2002, 12:14 AM

New World,

I would say this is a fake.

Alexei

new world · 10-07-2002, 06:18 PM

More examples of modern day production of Academy badges:

otlichnik · 10-08-2002, 03:57 AM

How do you tell a fake?

As Alexei said, in 1957 the shields were dropped. Since then the use of shield has been up to the school/academy commander. Even genuine ones are glued and genuine ones are the same quality as these "fakes" shown here.

I suspect that, like other 1970s-80s era Soviet badges these are the same construction as genuine. In other words they are then same as genuine but issued post-USSR in vast numbers.

If I am wrong what is the difference in a genuine one issued in the mid-1980s??

Shawn

06-06-2002, 11:52 AM	#3
CZ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 103	Glued on shields are fakes? Alexei, so all academy badges with glued on shields are fakes? Regards from Vienna

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*Art* Forum Founder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Buffalo NY Age: 58 Posts: 1,646	My back is similar, however it has a square screwpost base, and the wreath is fastened with a rivet. The sheild is fastened the exact same way though. Thanks Alexei! Art __________________ Visit the main site to the forum: The Soviet Military Awards Page Want to sell awards on the forum? Please read the FAQ Important Links: Forum announcements and rules \| Image posting FAQ

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06-06-2002, 08:00 AM	#2
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	Alexei, In a genuine badge, how the shields with academy names are attached? BTW, It is possible to take an authentic badge without a shield and just attach a shield. Tal

08-25-2002, 12:14 AM	#8
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	New World, I would say this is a fake. Alexei

10-08-2002, 03:57 AM	#10
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	How do you tell a fake? As Alexei said, in 1957 the shields were dropped. Since then the use of shield has been up to the school/academy commander. Even genuine ones are glued and genuine ones are the same quality as these "fakes" shown here. I suspect that, like other 1970s-80s era Soviet badges these are the same construction as genuine. In other words they are then same as genuine but issued post-USSR in vast numbers. If I am wrong what is the difference in a genuine one issued in the mid-1980s?? Shawn

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