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Old 06-26-2008, 12:44 AM   #1
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Fake Submariner Badges

Hello everybody,

a friend of mine has brought along this nice submarine badge.

I`d like to know, if it is a real badge for crew members of the (I think) Oscar II - class submarine "Orel", or if it`s just one of these cheap tourist souvenir things.

Thanks a lot for your assistance.

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Old 06-30-2008, 12:01 AM   #2
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Re: Unknown Submarine Badge

Well, if it´s a "tourist pin" It´s a very well manufactured one.
Usually, those tourist pins are poor in materials (paint and aluminium, sometimes brass) and detail.

This one looks pretty nice, with real enamel(at least looks like it), multi-piece construction and good level. It makes a good overall impression; I love the water effect! :)
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:41 AM   #3
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Re: Unknown Submarine Badge

Without being able to tell any further on the whereabouts of this particular badge, there are a LOT of similar submarine badges with separate nameplate available in the baltic states.
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:36 AM   #4
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Re: Unknown Submarine Badge

I have a sililar one for the 'KURSK'. I paid about $15 if I remember correctly. Cheap, light weight materials. Non authentic and made for tourists. It looks attractive but cheaply made. My 4 year old broke a piece of the front off with not to much effort;)

But it is nice and shiny for a play thing:D

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Old 06-30-2008, 05:47 AM   #5
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I have a sililar one for the 'KURSK'. I paid about $15 if I remember correctly. Cheap, light weight materials. Non authentic and made for tourists. It looks attractive but cheaply made. My 4 year old broke a piece of the front off with not to much effort;) But it is nice and shiny for a play thing:D Brendan
Ah yes, weaning 'em young. Good plan mate! :)
He'll be able to detect a fake by the time he's 8. :D
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Old 07-02-2008, 10:49 AM   #6
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Re: Unknown Submarine Badge

Hi,

for it`s size it is quite heavy, the enamel is hot baked and the pieces are put together very carefully; so nothing concerning the material and craftmanship tells me that it might be a fake... Has anyone some sort of proof, if it is a fake or the real deal ?

Thank you guys,

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Old 07-02-2008, 04:39 PM   #7
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Hi,

for it`s size it is quite heavy, the enamel is hot baked and the pieces are put together very carefully; so nothing concerning the material and craftmanship tells me that it might be a fake... Has anyone some sort of proof, if it is a fake or the real deal ?

Thank you guys,

Jens*
Here's mine

you will notice the top part of the badge has the flag missing where my son pulled it off, it was glued on by some sort of appoxy. Materials are brass, copper and enamel. Connecting rings on the name plate are unsoldered and the submarine and anchor appeared to be glued on as the flag.

The blue material in the background appears to be a piece of material applied from the back and covered by a hard clear material to make it look like enamel.

If I was a Russian sailor I'd be bitterly disappointed that a poorly made and garish badge such as this was given to me.

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Has anyone some sort of proof, if it is a fake or the real deal ?
Has anyone seen them in use, mentioned in any official records or in any regulations?
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:59 PM   #9
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Re: Unknown Submarine Badge

here are some more
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Old 07-03-2008, 01:37 AM   #10
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Re: Unknown Submarine Badge

Please continue this discussion. I'm enjoying it! What's the final verdict on this badge?:thumbsup or :thumbsdown?

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