air force technician M1969 parade uniform

charlet · 04-15-2004, 02:43 PM

Hi gentlemen, I need your experience and help about an officer uniform I want to reenact.
I have a medal group of an air force captain-technician bought to a known and friendly dealer we know all. I have a parade M69 uniform, but I need some infos coz I lack photos...

3 points:
-For a captain-technician, I need for the lapels the little propeller bearing a little enameled red star, yes? (in place of the classic propeller for flying crews)...
-I need too the technician badge, a silver-coloured aluminium badge, consisting of winged hammer and wrench with red star, correct?
-About the shoulderboards: are they standart, i.e. only the rank gold star? (without a hammer and wrench like those used in the marine)

many thanks for yours advices...
sebastien

vikingraider1 · 04-16-2004, 04:59 AM

You will not need any shoulder insignia on the shoulder board. The rank stars should be silver on the gold shoulderboards. The general rule is that if there is no collar insignia on the uniform then the insignia is displayed on the shoulder board. In this case you have collar insignia.
The collar insignia as far as I know for the M1969 air force technicians uniform was identical to regular air force personnel. The only arm to have the star within the propeller was naval aviaition.
The technicians wings are correct as you say in your post.

charlet · 04-17-2004, 04:23 AM

Hi Viking, thanks a lot for the infos.
I looked more deeply in the doc, saw the propelled red star was reserved to naval aviation, soviet army aviation, for the ingeneer corps. In this last case, If I understood the rules, the uniform has silver shoulderboards and gold stars.
The system has been simplified with the 1989 rules.
I'll use a photo from the Joukovsky academy, showing a parade, during the last days of the SU: gold shoulderboards, gold stars. And standart propellers for the lapels (hardly visible on the photo).

I can put the photo for the communauty if usefull.

Esteban_cool · 04-17-2004, 10:40 AM

I have an M43 gimnasterka for VVS technicians. Like their shoulderboards, I have seen ones with silver stars but with golden shoulderboards(M43 style). Were they altered or it´s factible to find those?
BTW, could a VVS technician be awarded a RBL or any other labor order/medal without working outside the armed forces?

Esteban

04-15-2004, 02:43 PM	#1
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	air force technician M1969 parade uniform Hi gentlemen, I need your experience and help about an officer uniform I want to reenact. I have a medal group of an air force captain-technician bought to a known and friendly dealer we know all. I have a parade M69 uniform, but I need some infos coz I lack photos... 3 points: -For a captain-technician, I need for the lapels the little propeller bearing a little enameled red star, yes? (in place of the classic propeller for flying crews)... -I need too the technician badge, a silver-coloured aluminium badge, consisting of winged hammer and wrench with red star, correct? -About the shoulderboards: are they standart, i.e. only the rank gold star? (without a hammer and wrench like those used in the marine) many thanks for yours advices... sebastien __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

04-16-2004, 04:59 AM	#2
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	You will not need any shoulder insignia on the shoulder board. The rank stars should be silver on the gold shoulderboards. The general rule is that if there is no collar insignia on the uniform then the insignia is displayed on the shoulder board. In this case you have collar insignia. The collar insignia as far as I know for the M1969 air force technicians uniform was identical to regular air force personnel. The only arm to have the star within the propeller was naval aviaition. The technicians wings are correct as you say in your post. __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

04-17-2004, 04:23 AM	#3
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Hi Viking, thanks a lot for the infos. I looked more deeply in the doc, saw the propelled red star was reserved to naval aviation, soviet army aviation, for the ingeneer corps. In this last case, If I understood the rules, the uniform has silver shoulderboards and gold stars. The system has been simplified with the 1989 rules. I'll use a photo from the Joukovsky academy, showing a parade, during the last days of the SU: gold shoulderboards, gold stars. And standart propellers for the lapels (hardly visible on the photo). I can put the photo for the communauty if usefull. __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

04-17-2004, 10:40 AM	#4
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	I have an M43 gimnasterka for VVS technicians. Like their shoulderboards, I have seen ones with silver stars but with golden shoulderboards(M43 style). Were they altered or it´s factible to find those? BTW, could a VVS technician be awarded a RBL or any other labor order/medal without working outside the armed forces? Esteban __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

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