Suspensions, Ribbons, Ribbon Bars And Order Of Precedence.

[Tal Inbar]

I think the ribbon bar is made up, as you can see no wear on most of the ribbons, not so likely combination etc.

T

[Tretov]

I've studied some photos of ribbon bars, and noted that the number of ribbons seem to differ depending on rank etc. I read earlier here in the forum that 4-place ribbon bars were reserved for higher officers, but how about 5-place ribbon bars? I have seen some marshals and marshals of USSR using the wider type, but at the same time some of them had just 4-ribbon wide ribbon bars. Were there any rules about this or was it up to the wearer to decide?

/Patrik

[Christophe]

No one seems to have the right answer... :confused:

Patrik's point is interesting. If you look at the Soviet Union Admirals and Marshals, you will notice they all seem to wear 4-ribbon wide ribbon bars, except Zhukov, Brezhnev, Kulikov, Jazov, and maybe others (?).
I have also found a pic of Beria - dated around 1945 - on which he wears a 5-ribbon bar, but where he doesn't seem to wear his orders (Suvorov 1st Class....) on the right chest... So...
The Soviet Union Marshals I mentioned are the only ones I have seen with 5-ribbon wide bars, and all in recent pictures (except Beria).

It is possible to see some of them in the excellent pic, dated 1978, posted by Dave in this thread dedicated to Ustinov :
http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...hlight=ustinov

Whats is also interesting is that this pic even shows Vladimir Fedorovich Tolubko - who was not a Soviet Union Marshal, but a Chief Marshal of Artillery - wearing a 5-ribbon wide bar !!

What are the regulations about the wear of these ribbon bars ?
Is it defined in the official texts, as for the medals and orders, and which ones ? Has it changed in the most recent years ?
or :
Is it at the wearer's choice ? And in this last hypothesis, is it linked to the number of ribbons (apparently not always...) ?

Shawn, Dave, others, any idea ?

Many thanks.

Ch.

[Esteban_cool]

In the books of the USSR Defense Ministry (1989, for example) there are sections that talk about ribbon bars regulations from pages 81 to 84 (Stats 193, 194 and 195). I can just understand some words in the text so I can´t say if this can help, but someone who speaks russian will do.

Esteban

[zscout370]

Another question: how common are Soviet (or other nations) ribbon bars and are they easy to find?

More questions to come :)

[Dolf]

Vet worn ribbons are harder to find ;)

Dolf

[clebercalado]

Hi Guys

I Bought This Ribbon Bar But I Never Have Saw One.
The Mine Have Some Kind Of Acrylic Cover Over The Ribbons, And One Of The Ribbons Is Quite Strange, The Last One (it Appear To Put
Wrong).

I Paid 6,00 Us$

Is This Original One ? If Yes In Wich Kind Of Uniforme They Used?

Please, Look To The Scans

Regards From Brazil

Cleber

[DougD]

The set you show is typical of the 'covered' style used on uniforms in the 1960's and 1970's. They show up all the time, doubt its a fake.

You still got it for a good price.

DD

[Riley1965]

I just got these from Paul S. I always wanted to add some to my collection. The first one is actually a Hand-Painted ribbon bar.

[Riley1965]

Here's # 2.
row 1: Order of the Red Star, Order of the Red star, Medal for Combat service
Row2: Centenial of Lenin's Birth, Victory Over Germany, 20th Anniversary of Victory in the GPW
Row3: Medal for 30th Anniversary of Victory in the GPW, Medal for Victory Over Japan, Veteran of Military Service
Row 4: Anniversary of 30th,40th & 50th Anniversary of the Soviet Armed Forces
Row 5: 60th & 70th Anniversary of the Soviet Armed Forces, Mongolian WW2 Victory Over Japan Medal
Row 6: Mongolian 1975 Victory Jubilee, Mongolian 1971 army jubilee
Row 7: Polish WW2 Victory and Freedom Medal.


Thanks,
Doc