Miner's Visor Cap

Tretov · 01-15-2007, 06:24 PM

Would this be a cap for a officer of the naval aviation, given that the cap lacks wings in the crown?

willie777 · 01-15-2007, 07:32 PM

A naval aviation cap would have a VMF cockade...

Tretov · 01-15-2007, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willie777

A naval aviation cap would have a VMF cockade...

Yes, might be... but since it lacks the wings, it is possible that the cap is a unissued item onto which the seller (it is on e!) has smashed whatever he had on hand. I am mostly interested in the colours.

willie777 · 01-15-2007, 08:07 PM

Also, Im pretty sure all officers of the navy (aviation and infantry and line) wore the same cap. Sorry to disappoint you.

Dzerzhinsky · 01-15-2007, 10:05 PM

I believe this hat was issued to coal mining service personnel. The badge for this branch is completely different than the parade example on this hat. If you provided a pic of the inside, that would help. The officers hats have a black velvet band.

Lapa · 01-16-2007, 03:40 AM

Tretov,

Isn't this cap a Russian issue rather than a Soviet one?

Marc

Esteban_cool · 01-21-2007, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willie777

Also, Im pretty sure all officers of the navy (aviation and infantry and line) wore the same cap. Sorry to disappoint you.

Are you sure?

But if not, wouldn´t a NAO cap have even a slight detail that could make it different from regular navy and naval infantry? piping, perhaps?

Dzerzhinsky · 01-21-2007, 02:48 PM

Without mentioning names, many years ago, I was the victim of a notable authority concerning this type of hat. The officer hat for this has a black velvet band and the same blue piping. The cap badge that belongs to this is not common, so it is difficult to locate a complete hat. In my situation, someone simply pinned a embroidered navy badge on the hat and sold it to me as KGB navy. Once I learned this was bogus, I eventually began researching it further and determined the error. Hense, it is evident to me that someone placed a common parade badge on this hat to simply unload it. Am I correct? Maybe someone should contact Randy Stewart and ask him? He is the author of the Under the Red Star webpage and a real authority on Gorbachev era Soviet visors. Thank you for your time.

01-15-2007, 10:05 PM	#5
Dzerzhinsky Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 44	Hat I believe this hat was issued to coal mining service personnel. The badge for this branch is completely different than the parade example on this hat. If you provided a pic of the inside, that would help. The officers hats have a black velvet band. __________________ "The ideal Chekist is a man with a warm heart, cool head and clean hands." "We stand for organised terror . . . Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution . . . The Cheka is obliged to defend the revolution and conquer the enemy even if its sword does by chance sometimes fall on the heads of the innocent." Felix Dzerzhinsky

01-21-2007, 02:48 PM	#8
Dzerzhinsky Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 44	Without mentioning names, many years ago, I was the victim of a notable authority concerning this type of hat. The officer hat for this has a black velvet band and the same blue piping. The cap badge that belongs to this is not common, so it is difficult to locate a complete hat. In my situation, someone simply pinned a embroidered navy badge on the hat and sold it to me as KGB navy. Once I learned this was bogus, I eventually began researching it further and determined the error. Hense, it is evident to me that someone placed a common parade badge on this hat to simply unload it. Am I correct? Maybe someone should contact Randy Stewart and ask him? He is the author of the Under the Red Star webpage and a real authority on Gorbachev era Soviet visors. Thank you for your time. __________________ "The ideal Chekist is a man with a warm heart, cool head and clean hands." "We stand for organised terror . . . Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution . . . The Cheka is obliged to defend the revolution and conquer the enemy even if its sword does by chance sometimes fall on the heads of the innocent." Felix Dzerzhinsky Last edited by Dzerzhinsky; 01-21-2007 at 02:51 PM.

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01-15-2007, 07:32 PM	#2
willie777 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 392	A naval aviation cap would have a VMF cockade...

01-15-2007, 08:07 PM	#4
willie777 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 392	Also, Im pretty sure all officers of the navy (aviation and infantry and line) wore the same cap. Sorry to disappoint you.

01-16-2007, 03:40 AM	#6
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Tretov, Isn't this cap a Russian issue rather than a Soviet one? Marc

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