Where do the fakes come from?

Soviet · 11-25-2005, 07:50 PM

I'm wondering were most of the fake Soviet medals & orders come from? Do they mostly come from Russia, from the ex-republics of the Soviet Union, from Europe or from the United States?

My guess would be that they are mostly made in Russia, but I'm I right?

DutchBoy · 11-25-2005, 09:34 PM

I've heard that a lot of Soviet fakes are coming out of the Baltic states, esp. Latvia and Lithuania.

Alfred · 11-26-2005, 02:16 AM

I know one company in Poland an one in Russia who sell fakes as copy´s over the internet with own homepages.

regards
Andreas

Christophe · 11-26-2005, 03:20 AM

Ukraine is also sometimes shown as a fake producer.

BTW, I'm really surprised China has not yet massively entered in this business. They produce copies of TR awards that are not so bad...

Cheers.

Ch.

Dave · 11-26-2005, 04:10 PM

I am always curious as to who produces the really good fakes. Some of these guys are really, really good jewelers - I only wish I had some of the skills that these guys have - I could do very well in the jewelry business!

There's one site from Russia that sells really good fakes as really good fakes, but even though I've tried to buy from them, I have never been able to. Perhaps it's a fake site???

(How ironic would that be???)

I'd like to find someone who could make a good fake Nevsky to replace one lost by a legit veteran who is still living and would like to wear one that looks like the one he was awarded. If I could only find one of the fakers, I'd pay them well to produce one, but no luck yet...

Dave

new world · 11-26-2005, 09:02 PM

I've heard of one guy in Russia who came into jewelry business from more traditional profession.

At some point he made several copies of high-end awards. Supposedly he got into real trouble when some of his pieces were used to replace real awards in a museum in Russia.

I have few samples of his work - it's really high-quality job! He used silver, gold-plating and hot-baked enamels. As result we have speciments that look almost identical to real pieces.

William

Christophe · 11-27-2005, 04:58 AM

William,

That's an interesting story... It reminds me the scenario of "Charade", the movie with Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant...

What were these high-end awards ? Can you post pics ?

Cheers.

Ch.

11-25-2005, 07:50 PM	#1
Soviet Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Montréal Age: 43 Posts: 356	Where do the fakes come from? I'm wondering were most of the fake Soviet medals & orders come from? Do they mostly come from Russia, from the ex-republics of the Soviet Union, from Europe or from the United States? My guess would be that they are mostly made in Russia, but I'm I right? __________________ На Берлин!

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DutchBoy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 50 Posts: 153	I've heard that a lot of Soviet fakes are coming out of the Baltic states, esp. Latvia and Lithuania. __________________ Matthijs P.

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Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	I know one company in Poland an one in Russia who sell fakes as copy´s over the internet with own homepages. regards Andreas

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Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris - Berlin Age: 60 Posts: 1,207	Ukraine is also sometimes shown as a fake producer. BTW, I'm really surprised China has not yet massively entered in this business. They produce copies of TR awards that are not so bad... Cheers. Ch.

11-26-2005, 04:10 PM	#5
Dave Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Age: 48 Posts: 700	I am always curious as to who produces the really good fakes. Some of these guys are really, really good jewelers - I only wish I had some of the skills that these guys have - I could do very well in the jewelry business! There's one site from Russia that sells really good fakes as really good fakes, but even though I've tried to buy from them, I have never been able to. Perhaps it's a fake site??? (How ironic would that be???) I'd like to find someone who could make a good fake Nevsky to replace one lost by a legit veteran who is still living and would like to wear one that looks like the one he was awarded. If I could only find one of the fakers, I'd pay them well to produce one, but no luck yet... Dave

11-26-2005, 09:02 PM	#6
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	I've heard of one guy in Russia who came into jewelry business from more traditional profession. At some point he made several copies of high-end awards. Supposedly he got into real trouble when some of his pieces were used to replace real awards in a museum in Russia. I have few samples of his work - it's really high-quality job! He used silver, gold-plating and hot-baked enamels. As result we have speciments that look almost identical to real pieces. William

11-27-2005, 04:58 AM	#7
Christophe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paris - Berlin Age: 60 Posts: 1,207	William, That's an interesting story... It reminds me the scenario of "Charade", the movie with Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant... What were these high-end awards ? Can you post pics ? Cheers. Ch.

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