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View Poll Results: Repair or not
Leave the damn thing alone! Don't mess with what looks like a period repair 12 54.55%
Have the solder removed to make the serial number readable 9 40.91%
Repair the enamel only 0 0%
Remove the solder AND repair the enamel 1 4.55%
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:50 AM   #241
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How they are put together

ok, if you look at the photo of my damaged ORS, you will notice in the dammaged are two different colors of silver.

My question is, why the different colors of silver? Is that a design flaw or part of the underlying design? Has anyone seen one of these things without any of the enamel on both lower arms and can you post a photo of one like this?

Not the one that people saw on eBay since that was horrible to look at (like a train wreck). BTW, anyone that takes all the enamel off and then tries to sell it should be drawn and quartered.
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:08 AM   #242
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Question about enamel repair

Jeff,
Is this the different tones of silver? If it is, here's what most likely happened. The darker tone is where the first piece of enamel came off. The darkness is the Patina or changes on the surface due to exposure to air. The small shiny section was a later piece of enamel to fall off. Therefore, less exposure to the elements.

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Old 10-23-2006, 12:29 PM   #243
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Missing enamel

one problem with that theory is that when I run my fingernail over the line between the two I can feel a small rise as if the brighter piece is covering the darker silver.

I have included close shots of the affected area. It looks to my untrained eye as if there was a small coating of a shiny substance to brighten the enamel from under.

Thoughts?
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Old 10-23-2006, 01:06 PM   #244
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Question about enamel repair

Yeah, That's definately NOT patina. I'm at a loss for words now. I just don't know. Sorry!! I hope other members will know. I've gone as far as I can.

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Old 10-24-2006, 06:45 AM   #245
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Interesting find on eB?y for Riley1965

Hey, here is something interesting that I found this morning.

It is a photo of an officer. Now that in itself is not interesting. But look at the second photo and the lower ORS. It is missing the enamel on the 10'oclock arm.

Interesting that he didn't feel the need to have it repaired before the photo was taken.
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Old 10-24-2006, 07:44 AM   #246
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Question about enamel repair

Jeff,
See, If the missing enamel doesn't bother a Lt. Colonel...

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BTW: Great pics!!!
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:27 AM   #247
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Hey, here is something interesting that I found this morning.
It is a photo of an officer. Now that in itself is not interesting. But look at the second photo and the lower ORS. It is missing the enamel on the 10'oclock arm.
Interesting that he didn't feel the need to have it repaired before the photo was taken.
What's also interesting is that he's wearing a suspension OGPW in this photo that was taken most likely after 1957 (when the Medal for Irreproachable Service was first awarded).
I'm guessing this guy was proud of what he earned.
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Question about enamel repair

Eric,
You have to be right!! If I had earned a suspension OPW I'd wear it too!!! Especially since I don't have any suspensions in my collection. They are on the list to buy. It just takes time and money

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You have to be right!! If I had earned a suspension OPW I'd wear it too!!!
Yeah, until regulations, and Uncle Iosef told ya to turn it in and wear a screwback or else ! ! !
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Description of photo from eB?y:

The photo of Lieutenant Colonel of Artillery Pavel Petrov, awarded with two orders of Red Star (2nd type), order Great Patriotic War (1st type) and order of Red Banner (2nd type, 1st award) medals "For Combat Service", "For Capture of Berlin", “For Victory over Germany" and others. This photograph is verified by Head of the Staff Department.

Attached is the back of that photo if interested. Year of photo 1961.
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