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Old 02-19-2004, 07:59 AM   #41
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Marcel Lefèvre

Marcel Lefèvre has been made "Hero of the Soviet Union" (posthumous) on 4 June 1945.

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Old 02-19-2004, 08:49 AM   #42
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Eddie, you are not alone! I find the the "foreign " HSU an interesting subject. Below is a list, not complete yet, of the HSU I have info of:

Name, Country, Rank etc, Award Date, S/N.

Otakar Jaroš, Czechoslovakia, 4/18/1943.

Antonín Sochor, Czechoslovakia 11/21/1943

Richard Tesařík, Czechoslovakia 21/12/1943

Josef Buršík, Czechoslovakia 21/12/1943

Jan Nálepka-Repkin, Czechoslovakia 5/2/1945

Stěpan Vajda, Czechoslovakia 8/10/1945

Ludvík Svoboda, Czechoslovakia 11/24/1965 #10708

Vladimír Remek, Czechoslovakia 3/16/1978 #11299

Gustav Husák, Czechoslovakia 1/9/1983 #11490

Jacques Andre, France, Pilot N/N, 6/4/1944

Marcel Lefevre, France 6/4/1944.

Albert Marcel, France, Pilot N/N, 11/27/1944.

Roland De la Poype , France 11/27/1944.

Jean-loup Chretien, France, Cosmonaut, 7/2/1982.

Poland

Poland

Poland

Poland

Miroslaw Hermaszewski, Poland, Cosmonaut 7/5/1978

Walter Ulbricht, DDR 6/29/1963. #11184

Fritz Schmenkel, , DDR 10/6/1964.

Sigmund Jähn, , DDR 9/10/1978. #11303

Erich Honecker, DDR 8/25/1982

Volkan S Goranov, (Zachariev, Z.S.), Bulgaria 12/31/1936. #21

Vladimir Zaimov, Bulgaria 5/30/1977

Todor Zhivkov, Bulgaria 5/31/1977, #11281

Aleksandr Panayatov Aleksandrov, Bulgaria, Cosmonaut 6/17/1988

Gamal Abdul Nasser, Egypt, President, 5/13/1964 #11224

Hakim Abdel Amer, Egypt, 5/13/1964. #11225

Fidel Castro, Cuba, President, 23/5/1963. #11124

Arnaldo Tamayo Méndez, Cuba, Cosmonaut 9/26/1980

Ruben Ruis Ibarruri, Spain 8/23/1956.

Ramon Lopez (Merkander, Ramon), Spain 5/31/1960. #11089

Bertalan Farkas, Hungary, Cosmonaut 6/30/1980 #11441

Janos Kadar, Hungary 4/3/1964 #11218

Ahad Mohmand Abdul, Afganistan, Cosmonaut, 7/9/1988. #11584

Tuan Pham, N. Vietnam, Cosmonaut, 31/7/1980. #11444

Sharma Rakesh, India, Cosmonaut, 4/11/1984.

Italy

Dumitru Dorin Prunariu, Rumania 5/22/1981

Gurragcha Zhugderdemidiyn, Mongolia, Cosmonaut 3/30/1981

Ahmed Ben Bella, Algeria, 4/30/1964 #11221

This is a work in progress and I might have missed some.

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Old 02-19-2004, 08:52 AM   #43
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Here is a nice pic of:

From left to right:
Antonín Sochor (16.7.1914-16.8.1950)
Josef Buršík (11.9.1911-30.6.2002)
Richard Tesařík (3.12.1915-27.3.1967)
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Old 02-19-2004, 12:36 PM   #44
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Christoph,Kim,

Great research!! Respect!! ;)

I,ve Updated the top List, just one small problem with the dates, and that is I write them different to your list Kim. I write Day/Month/Year. and you write Month/Day/Year could you check and see if that,s correct what I have written.

So what are we missing...........if there are 43 foreign HSU,s we are missing two unknown Polish HSU,s
one Italian HSU
and two compleatly unknown Heros.
Plus the Question marks.

This is looking good! :) We are not far away from having a compleat list of foreign Heroes, Brilliant!

Kim,
I hope you don,t mind me updating the list I started with your additional info.
What do you think, when the list is finished at the end of the Thread we post one compleat list and delate the others.

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Old 02-19-2004, 01:06 PM   #45
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GREAT progress, guys. I am setting up a time to visit Wing Commander Sharma in Bangalore and study and photograph his group (and probably his backup as well).

More to come,

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Old 02-19-2004, 01:26 PM   #46
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GREAT progress, guys. I am setting up a time to visit Wing Commander Sharma in Bangalore and study and photograph his group (and probably his backup as well).

More to come,

Ed
Ed,
That,s super, please post some pics.
Remember I was checking up on the Afgan Cosmonaut in Stuttgart?
You wouldn,t belive how many Afgan Refugees there are called ......Mohmand
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I,m still at it,

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Old 02-19-2004, 02:50 PM   #47
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Eddie: The numbers seems ok. One thing I noticed was that you posted one Bulgarian twice:

Vladimir Stoyanov-Zayimov, Bulgaria, General, 5/30/1977 ?
Vladimir Zaimov, Bulgaria, General, 30/5/1977 ?

This is the same man, right date is 30/5/1972. I made a misstake with the year… You should also add:

Georgi Ivanov, Bulgaria, Cosmonaut 13/4/1979 #10749

Muhammed Ahmed Faris, Syria, Cosmonaut 30/7/1987

I have the names of the three poles missing but only from the russian book. So spelling is not that good.

Vladislav Vysotsky K., Poland, 11/11/1943
A. T. Kzhivon, Poland, 11/11/1943
Julius Hiobner, Poland, 11/11/1943

And the italian:

Primo Dzhibelli, Italy 31/12/1936
(Who the hell is this???)

I have not looked threw the Russian archives for this info… :cool: My sources are:

Ordenskaya knizjka, HSU- number book
Cavalier, magazine 1
http://www.spacefacts.de/

Of course I don't mind if this thread gets croped when we are done (if ever). Long threads are a pain in the *** if they just repeat the same info over and over. But we better make sure that we have a good list before anything gets deleted.

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Old 02-19-2004, 04:15 PM   #48
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Did you notice ?

Did you notice something quite astonishing ?

According to the previous posts, let's have a look to the SN and dates of awarding of the foreign HSUs :

* #21 - 31.12.36
* #10708 - 24.11.65
* #11089 - 31.05.60
* #11124 - 23.05.63
* #11184 - 29.06.63
* #11218 - 03.04.64
* #11221 - 30.04.64
* #11224 - 13.05.64
* #11225 - 13.05.64
* #11281 - 31.05.77
* #11299 - 16.03.78
* #11303 - 10.09.78
* #11441 - 30.06.80
* #11444 - 31.07.80
* #11490 - 09.01.83
* #11584 - 07.09.88

Except the two first ones (#21 - 1936, and #10708), all other SN of foreign HSUs are in the #11000-11500 range.
And this covers a period of 28 years (1960-1988) !!
And globally the order has been respected !! (what is not always the cas ewith other orders).

Does it mean that this 11000-11500 range has been dedicated to foreign awardees ?

Any explanation or reason for this ?

Thanks for your comments.

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Old 02-19-2004, 04:43 PM   #49
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Marcel Lefevre, France 6/4/1944.
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Kim,

According to my sources, Marcel Lefèvre is dead on 5 June 1944, and has been awarded (posthumously) the HSU only on 4 June 1945.
Is it correct ? Can you doublecheck with your own sources ?

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Another remark :

Very few HSUs seem have been awarded to foreigners between 1964 and 1977...

Does it mean that L.Brezhnev kept them for his exclusive benefit ? ;) :p Any explanation ?

Ch.
What about the large issues to cosmonaut/passengers? Aren't they a large percentage of the post-1945 "foreign friends'" awards?

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