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Old 05-20-2005, 08:23 PM   #1
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What is this ? Fantasy ?

What is this a Fantasy MVD badge ?
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Old 05-20-2005, 09:01 PM   #2
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Not a fantasy piece, a legit one called : Excellent MVD Firefighter. The screw nut isn't original I don't think. Is it possible to see the reverse but with the screw nut removed? Now is it an original or a fake that is for someone else to say.
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Old 05-20-2005, 09:52 PM   #3
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Bought it for 0.99$ on eBay. I don't have it yet. I do have larger pictures, but I had to reduce them to 50k.
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:31 AM   #4
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This is a badge that sells for more than that. But you never know, and you can't beat the price you paid for regardless. When you do receive it, would you let me know the weight and material?
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Old 05-21-2005, 12:39 PM   #5
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Sure I will.
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Old 05-21-2005, 08:22 PM   #6
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Soviet,

I've seen those badges before, I believe it should have a round MM on the back and very bright enamel. I was offered those many times as restrikes.

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Old 05-21-2005, 11:29 PM   #7
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What is the difference between a restrike & a copie ?
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:28 PM   #8
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Soviet,

Well, in numismatics a restrike is an officially authorised copy usually made with the original dies, but since the Russians had never authorised any of those copies, I believe we can safely call them fakes.

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Alexei, for the purpose of my education in badges, would restrikes still have the circular mint mark as well?
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Old 05-23-2005, 02:13 PM   #10
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Danny,

There is a bunch of restrikes, that have the mintmark, like this fire badge and space wings. As a matter of fact I don't think they differ from their official conterparts in any significant way. The only reason I believe that they are restrikes is because my suppliers tell me so and can offer them in very significant quantities. Well, come to think of it, this fire badge has a very bright enamel, similar to automotive metalic paint.

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