Leather visor cap - Page 2

Jeffrey Meffert · 11-29-2006, 01:56 PM

there is beauty in honest wear. Thank you for sharing.

Amerikashka · 11-29-2006, 02:30 PM

I not have held such cap in my hands to speak about more of. Yes, maybe not bad. In any case, not without use and damages from bad storage place. It, my opinion that better than bad copy made in Russia by the deceitful busy hands with the false age and damages that on the ebay.:thumbsdown

Dave · 11-29-2006, 03:33 PM

I have a 1920s black leather hat in my collection. Unfortunately it is packed away at the moment. I do have this photo of a few of my hats though and it's in the group - it's on the second foam head from the left. Once I get everything set up in the next few months I'd be happy to take some good pics of it.

Dave

DougD · 11-29-2006, 03:55 PM

Dave's cap is earlier, circa 1920; the one posted by Amerishaka looks like the 1930's style. i had a brown 1930's leather cap for an NKVD officer of motor troops ( entire uniform was leather) and I'll see if i can find shots of it.

DougD

Dzerzhinsky · 11-29-2006, 11:54 PM

From what I can see of his collection, his hat is almost identical to my examples. I have one piece dated 1920 with a hammer/plow insignia inside the label and a nice enameled red star badge like the one in Dave's collection. My other leather visor is not dated and has a original painted hammer/plow cap badge attached. I actually acquired a few replica hammer/plow badges to compare and verify its authenticity. Anyway, nice collection Dave!

Lapa · 11-30-2006, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzerzhinsky

...I have a 1967 Soviet made visor made for the 50th Aniversary of the Revolution and it looks better than this one. Yet, you could never sell my 1967 example as a WWII piece or original...

Dzerzhinsky,

Could you please post pictures (front, side, inside) of your cap made for the 1967 parade; I was offered something that purports to be it, but I'd like to check, if possible.

Marc

Esteban_cool · 11-30-2006, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

I have a 1920s black leather hat in my collection. Unfortunately it is packed away at the moment. I do have this photo of a few of my hats though and it's in the group - it's on the second foam head from the left. Once I get everything set up in the next few months I'd be happy to take some good pics of it.

Dave

Nice caps you got, Dave.
BTW, which service branch does the red crown and green band cap belongs to? I have never seen it before!

DougD · 01-13-2007, 06:24 PM

Here is yakov peters, deputy head of the Cheka, wearing a black leather "Cheka" cap. Note the hammer-plow cap badge and its odd placement.

DD

11-29-2006, 01:56 PM	#11
Jeffrey Meffert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA Age: 68 Posts: 640	Wouldn't say "bad condition" there is beauty in honest wear. Thank you for sharing.

11-29-2006, 02:30 PM	#12
Amerikashka Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Queens Posts: 23	I not have held such cap in my hands to speak about more of. Yes, maybe not bad. In any case, not without use and damages from bad storage place. It, my opinion that better than bad copy made in Russia by the deceitful busy hands with the false age and damages that on the ebay.:thumbsdown __________________ Complaints are suggestions heard second hand.

11-29-2006, 03:55 PM	#14
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 51 Posts: 2,060	caps Dave's cap is earlier, circa 1920; the one posted by Amerishaka looks like the 1930's style. i had a brown 1930's leather cap for an NKVD officer of motor troops ( entire uniform was leather) and I'll see if i can find shots of it. DougD

11-29-2006, 11:54 PM	#15
Dzerzhinsky Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 44	Leather Visor From what I can see of his collection, his hat is almost identical to my examples. I have one piece dated 1920 with a hammer/plow insignia inside the label and a nice enameled red star badge like the one in Dave's collection. My other leather visor is not dated and has a original painted hammer/plow cap badge attached. I actually acquired a few replica hammer/plow badges to compare and verify its authenticity. Anyway, nice collection Dave! __________________ "The ideal Chekist is a man with a warm heart, cool head and clean hands." "We stand for organised terror . . . Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution . . . The Cheka is obliged to defend the revolution and conquer the enemy even if its sword does by chance sometimes fall on the heads of the innocent." Felix Dzerzhinsky

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