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Old 05-09-2012, 03:13 AM   #11
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Re: set: Hero, Lenin, 2xRed Banners, Nevsky, Grate Motherland War 1grade

Where are the Medals? Documents?
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:02 AM   #12
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Re: set: Hero, Lenin, 2xRed Banners, Nevsky, Grate Motherland War 1grade

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Where are the Medals? Documents?
Medals are in Riga, Latvia.
Documents are unavailable, as I understand heir doesn't want to attach them or documents could be lost. I haven't got an answer.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:32 PM   #13
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It was found out interesting thing about Lenin Order...

Numbers 7220-7436 were stroken twice in 1941 (mistake). In a hurry decision was to add "1" ahead. So numbers became 17220-17436 that should be produced later and pendant.
If you compare first "1" and second "1" in number, those are in different fonts.

Heir owns Mercedes Benz CLS (2012), I think she doesn't need another. It is possible, that it is the reason why documents are unavailable. She doesn't want this information to become public. Set will be sold at Saturday, so for my work I can get 8 years used one, may be 6 :)

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Old 05-09-2012, 02:10 PM   #14
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Re: set: Hero, Lenin, 2xRed Banners, Nevsky, Grate Motherland War 1grade

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It was found out interesting thing about Lenin Order...

Numbers 7220-7436 were stroken twice in 1941 (mistake). In a hurry decision was to add "1" ahead. So numbers became 17220-17436 that should be produced later and pendant.
If you compare first "1" and second "1" in number, those are in different fonts.

Heir owns Mercedes Benz CLS (2012), I think she doesn't need another. It is possible, that it is the reason why documents are unavailable. She doesn't want this information to become public. Set will be sold at Saturday, so for my work I can get 8 years used one, may be 6 :)
Cars aside, for a cash estimate you might want to check out past auctions of the New York Sale. I'm sure sets resembling this one have been sold there before.
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Re: set: Hero, Lenin, 2xRed Banners, Nevsky, Grate Motherland War 1grade

Auction has started 2 hours ago
Price has grown up from 20200$ to 23100$
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Re: Hero Group Ivan Porfir'evich Motornyj.

Well, best of luck on the auction! :thumbsup
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Well, best of luck on the auction! :thumbsup
Thanks!
Result should be ineteresting, about 20 participants copmleted registration to bid on this set...

Also thanks to moderator for corrections in this topic!
I will inform about hummer price later...

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Re: Hero Group Ivan Porfir'evich Motornyj.

The result is 57 000$ (+20%) = 68 410
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Do you know to wear the grouping is bound? Russia, US or a museum in Riga? Not my collection is all I can say.
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Do you know to wear the grouping is bound? Russia, US or a museum in Riga? Not my collection is all I can say.
Sorry, what do you mean? ( "to wear the grouping is bound" in other words)

If you mean from what country is winner, I am so sorry I can not answer this question according to auction terms & conditions (confidentiality)

I hope this topic was interesting!

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