Medal Of The Order "For Merits To The Fatherland".

sovvisor · 07-02-2002, 06:16 AM

Help needed.
The medal Merit for country was first out 1994 after all I have read. All pictures I have have a medal with the year 1994, until now. I was sent a picture with a medal with year 1993!!!. Is this a fake? Are both medal fakes or just the 1993. I need all help I can get on this one. It has a high number 500 something. On my other pics there is also an M in front of the number on the military issues with swords but not on the civilian type. Both these medals lack that M.
Answer after your best thoughts.
Best

Nota Bene · 07-02-2002, 07:03 PM

Sovvisor,

I am not really a specialist in post-Soviet awards, but this medal was established in 1994. I also know that many Russian awards are very commonly faked.

Alexei

sovvisor · 02-09-2003, 11:55 AM

Are these pieces genuine? I think so. The trouble is the first class. It has the same ring as the suvorov medal.
Best wishes

Tal Inbar · 02-09-2003, 01:26 PM

20$ and you can buy those:

HuliganRS · 02-09-2003, 02:23 PM

Comrades,

Sovvisor's medals look genuine...
Tal's are "Collector's Copies"

I've seen a real 1st Class one and the enamel looked as good as older Russian enamel.

Rusty.

sovvisor · 02-09-2003, 05:26 PM

I agree with you on Tal´s scan. The medals looks like a fake. The serial number is not even put on the prepared line! It looks like the patina is artificial.

Nota Bene · 02-10-2003, 06:26 PM

Sovvisor,

I am not so sure. I have seen a documented medal that a believe was genuine, and the ring was a little different.

Alexei

HuliganRS · 03-30-2005, 12:39 PM

Gentlemen,

Here's mine.

This one is real.

Rusty.

Nota Bene · 03-30-2005, 01:00 PM

Rusty,

Nice! Notice that the inside of the loop is not perfectly round - this is for some reason very typical for current manufacture.

Alexei

02-09-2003, 02:23 PM	#5
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Comrades, Sovvisor's medals look genuine... Tal's are "Collector's Copies" I've seen a real 1st Class one and the enamel looked as good as older Russian enamel. Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

02-09-2003, 05:26 PM	#6
sovvisor Bearer of the Red Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Uppsala Swden Age: 49 Posts: 229	Nota Bene I agree with you on Tal´s scan. The medals looks like a fake. The serial number is not even put on the prepared line! It looks like the patina is artificial. __________________ sovvisor Last edited by Nota Bene; 12-04-2004 at 10:33 PM.

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07-02-2002, 07:03 PM	#2
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Sovvisor, I am not really a specialist in post-Soviet awards, but this medal was established in 1994. I also know that many Russian awards are very commonly faked. Alexei

02-10-2003, 06:26 PM	#7
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Sovvisor, I am not so sure. I have seen a documented medal that a believe was genuine, and the ring was a little different. Alexei

03-30-2005, 01:00 PM	#9
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Rusty, Nice! Notice that the inside of the loop is not perfectly round - this is for some reason very typical for current manufacture. Alexei

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