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Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics Awards, Uniforms, Research and everything Soviet Union (Союз Советских Социалистических Республик) 30th December 1922 - 26th December 1991. |
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1945-1991 | 8 | 80.00% | |
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05-09-2011, 11:14 AM | #1 |
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Re: Ribbon mystery....
Yes, the placement of the ribbon after all of the Soviet medals and Orders certainly indicates a foreign award. Unfortunately, I have not been able to identify it, and I was hoping that someone here on the Forum might recognize it.
It is over-sized, which I am presuming accurately reflects the medal ribbon, since it would have been very easy to make the ribbon the same size as the Soviet examples. Thus far I have looked at ribbons for the socialist governments of Poland, Hungary, Romania and Czechoslovakia, but I have not found it. I also looked at ribbons for France and Great Britain, since it seemed to me that a Cavalier of the Order of Glory might well have received a corresponding decoration from one of the western allies. I know that it is not an American award. This is frustrating ! :banghead |
03-24-2012, 03:38 PM | #2 |
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Ribbon ID Help
Hello,
I bought this awesome uniform(piped trousers and visor included) from a fellow collector. It is for a Medical Officer in the Soviet Army. As you can see, he is very highly decorated, with many orders. There is one that I cannot ID... It looks like the Victory Over Germany, but it is placed at the bottom of the stack, further down than I would think it should be. To make things more confusing, is that there are two of them. I am fairly certain that the odds of one of them being an OG is pretty much out of the questions. What do you think that lower orange and black ribbon is? BTW, I feel that the ribbon bar is original to the tunic as it is embroidered onto a patch of matching brown cloth, which is sewn to the jacket. |
03-24-2012, 03:40 PM | #3 |
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Re: Ribbon ID Help
25th Anniversary of Victory badge. A fairly common practice.
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03-24-2012, 04:02 PM | #4 |
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Re: Ribbon ID Help
Thank you. I do not remember hearing of that badge before. Interesting that it was worn as a ribbon on the service jacket.
Also, I find it very interesting that this man has so many orders, but not a single campaign medal. I know that a couple of the orders(Like maybe the ORB and the OL)must have been for long service, but the rest... |
03-24-2012, 09:15 PM | #5 |
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Re: Ribbon ID Help
Yep, the 25th anniversary badge as noted previously. If you look at ribbon bars long enough you'll often see that particular ribbon on the bottom of the bar, or that same ribbon in the same place but at 45º, or even smaller versions of that (St. George/OG/VoG) ribbon. All denoting the same badge.
I would guess, on that jacket, that the CSM and one of the Red Stars are for long service. And possibly either or both of the ORB and Lenin could have been for long service as well. He might have been newly inducted in 45, just long enough to get the VoG, but didn't make it to the front. But he did spend 40 years in the SAF/reserves and was highly decorated. Not super sexy as far as wartime experience but he has a Lenin; that by itself speaks volumes. I also like to see the AF vet's medal ribbon. It's not rare but I don't see it a lot and when it's there without the Labor vet's ribbon it probably means they guy was a career military man. Most of this is semi-informed supposition on my part. I'm sure real experts will blow holes in my theory. I wonder...were there Guards medical units?
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03-25-2012, 02:32 AM | #6 |
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Re: Ribbon ID Help
Thanks for the comments thus far and for the explanation on the 25 year anniversary badge.
As far as the Guards badge is concerned, were doctors not assigned to combatant Guards units, thus allowing for the wear of the badge? |
03-25-2012, 07:38 AM | #7 |
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03-25-2012, 07:11 PM | #8 |
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Re: Ribbon ID Help
I thought it was only 25 year's service to get a Lenin at one point?
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03-25-2012, 07:25 PM | #9 |
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Re: Ribbon ID Help
Wasn't that prior to 1958? When the long service awards came in.
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02-18-2007, 01:25 AM | #10 |
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Order of Precedence on a Ribbon Bar
Order of Victory (above all the awards, on its own pinback device) HSU Gold Star (have no ribbon) HSL Gold Star (have no ribbon) Order of Lenin Order of the October Revolution Order of the Red Banner Order of Suvorov 1st Class Order of Ushakov 1st Class Order of Kutuzov 1st Class Order of Nakhimov 1st Class Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky 1st Class Order of Suvorov 2nd Class Order of Ushakov 2nd Class Order of Kutuzov 2nd Class Order of Nakhimov 2nd Class Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky 2nd Class Order of Suvorov 3rd Class Order of Kutuzov 3rd Class Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky 3rd Class Order of Alexander Nevsky Order of the Patriotic War 1st Class Order of the Patriotic War 2nd Class Order of the Red Banner of Labor Order of the Friendship of Peoples Order of the Red Star Order for Service to the Motherland 1st Class Order for Service to the Motherland 2nd Class Order for Service to the Motherland 3rd Class Order of the Badge of Honor Order for Personal Courage Order of Glory (1st Class) Order of Glory (2nd Class) Order of Glory (3rd Class) Order of Labor Glory 1st Class Order of Labor Glory 2nd Class Order of Labor Glory 3rd Class Medal for Bravery Medal of Ushakov Medal for Combat Service Medal of Nakhimov Medal for Valiant Labor Medal for Distinguished Labor Medal for 100th Anniversary of Lenin's Birth Partisan Medal 1st Class Partisan Medal 2nd Class Medal for Distinction in Guarding the USSR State Border Medal for Distinguished Military Service 1st Class Medal for Distinguished Military Service 2nd Class Medal for Distinguished Service in Maintaining Public Order Medal for Bravery in a Fire Medal for Saving Life From Drowning Medal for the Defense of Leningrad Medal for the Defense of Moscow Medal for the Defense of Odessa Medal for the Defense of Sevastopol Medal for the Defense of Stalingrad Medal for the Defense of Kiev Medal for the Defense of the Caucasus Medal for the Defense of the Soviet Polar Region Medal for Victory over Germany Medal for the 20th Anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War Medal for the 30th Anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War Medal for the 40th Anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War Medal for Victory over Japan Medal for the Capture of Budapest Medal for the Capture of Koenigsberg Medal for the Capture of Vienna Medal for the Capture of Berlin Medal for the Liberation of Belgrade Medal for the Liberation of Warsaw Medal for the Liberation of Prague Medal for Valiant Labor During the Great Patriotic War Veteran of Labor Medal Veteran of the Armed Forces Medal Medal for Strengthening Military Cooperation Medal for the Restoration of the Black Metallurgical Enterprises Medal for the Restoration of the Donbass Coal Mines Medal for the Development of the Virgin Lands Medal for the Construction of the Baikal-Amur Railroad Medal for the Development of the Non-Black Earth Region of the RSFSR Medal for the Development of the Petrochemical Complex of Western Siberia Medal for the 20th Anniversary of the Workers’ and Peasants’ Red Army Medal for the 30th Anniversary of the Army and Fleet Medal for the 40th Anniversary of the Soviet Armed Forces Medal for the 50th Anniversary of the Soviet Armed Forces Medal for the 60th Anniversary of the Soviet Armed Forces Medal for the 70th Anniversary of the Soviet Armed Forces Medal for the 50th Anniversary of the Soviet Militia Medal for the 800th Anniversary of Moscow Medal for the 250th Anniversary of Leningrad Medal for the 1500th Anniversary of Kiev Medal for 20 Years of Irreproachable Service Medal for 15 Years of Irreproachable Service Medal for 10 Years of Irreproachable Service |
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