Firefighter's uniform

Tal Inbar · 12-31-2002, 12:12 PM

I don't collect uniforms, but I think it is nice one - with the ribbon for the medal "for bravery in a fire". And it's cheap too...

vikingraider1 · 04-22-2003, 10:03 AM

Can anyone confirm for me what type of buttons Firemen used on their uniforms? I have some buttons with a cossed monkey wrench and hammer and the only thing I can come up with for these is fire service.
Thanks

DougD · 04-22-2003, 12:14 PM

Those buttons would be for railroad.

vikingraider1 · 04-22-2003, 12:19 PM

Is that right Doug? I thought they would have had normal hammer and sickle buttons. Did firefighters use the regular hammer and sickle style buttons?

DougD · 04-22-2003, 03:49 PM

I'm not talking railroad tropps here, I am talking railroad service; they used the cross hammer and wrench, not the hammer-sickle.

DD

otlichnik · 04-23-2003, 08:23 AM

Hammer and sickle buttons are not a Soviet symbol per se but a Red Army/Soviet Army symbol - so militsia, firefighters (except maybe army ones), railway workers (except army troops), factory guards, etc don't get them.

MVD, KGB and KGB Border Guard troops do as they are part of the armed forces.

Shawn

Tal Inbar · 06-20-2003, 06:24 AM

What is this?

charlet · 06-20-2003, 06:46 AM

I think it is a praporchtchik fireman jacket: equivalent grades for warrant officers (dunnow if correct word), long career NCO between classic NCO (after starchina) and officers (below mladchii leitenant).

human · 06-21-2003, 05:33 AM

I think this is the highest warrant officer rank :Senior warrant officer or Starshij praporschik .

warrant officer or Praporschik is brick-like texture and two metal screwed-in stars.

Junior warrant officer or Mladshij praporschik is brick-like texture and one metal screwed-in star or "plain" without the stars. I've been reading that this rank probably doesn't exist any more.

the rank after is a different category it s officer :junior lieutenant or Mladshij lejtenant, board would be gold with one red (depending on branch) strip in the middle and one screwed-in star.

Jean

otlichnik · 06-24-2003, 01:31 AM

Our French colleagues are correct as usual. Senior warrant Officer of the MVD Fire Fighting Service, M69 officer parade uniform.

Shawn

04-22-2003, 10:03 AM	#2
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	Fire Service buttons??? Can anyone confirm for me what type of buttons Firemen used on their uniforms? I have some buttons with a cossed monkey wrench and hammer and the only thing I can come up with for these is fire service. Thanks __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

04-22-2003, 12:14 PM	#3
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	Buttons Those buttons would be for railroad.

04-22-2003, 12:19 PM	#4
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	Is that right Doug? I thought they would have had normal hammer and sickle buttons. Did firefighters use the regular hammer and sickle style buttons? __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

04-22-2003, 03:49 PM	#5
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	Railroad I'm not talking railroad tropps here, I am talking railroad service; they used the cross hammer and wrench, not the hammer-sickle. DD

06-20-2003, 06:46 AM	#8
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	I think it is a praporchtchik fireman jacket: equivalent grades for warrant officers (dunnow if correct word), long career NCO between classic NCO (after starchina) and officers (below mladchii leitenant). __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

04-23-2003, 08:23 AM	#6
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	Hammer and sickle buttons are not a Soviet symbol per se but a Red Army/Soviet Army symbol - so militsia, firefighters (except maybe army ones), railway workers (except army troops), factory guards, etc don't get them. MVD, KGB and KGB Border Guard troops do as they are part of the armed forces. Shawn

06-21-2003, 05:33 AM	#9
human Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: France Age: 51 Posts: 20	I think this is the highest warrant officer rank :Senior warrant officer or Starshij praporschik . warrant officer or Praporschik is brick-like texture and two metal screwed-in stars. Junior warrant officer or Mladshij praporschik is brick-like texture and one metal screwed-in star or "plain" without the stars. I've been reading that this rank probably doesn't exist any more. the rank after is a different category it s officer :junior lieutenant or Mladshij lejtenant, board would be gold with one red (depending on branch) strip in the middle and one screwed-in star. Jean

06-24-2003, 01:31 AM	#10
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	Our French colleagues are correct as usual. Senior warrant Officer of the MVD Fire Fighting Service, M69 officer parade uniform. Shawn

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