Marshal of Soviet Union parade uniform M/43(?)

Tretov · 03-07-2005, 01:43 PM

This one is currently offered to me.

I know nothing on the older ones and I need advice.

// Patrik

Esteban_cool · 03-07-2005, 01:57 PM

Aren´t the M43 uniforms the ones with just a single line of buttons instead of two?

Tretov · 03-07-2005, 02:03 PM

Yes. I have written the wrong thing, I do of course mean M/45. Sorry.

Esteban_cool · 03-07-2005, 02:07 PM

Don´t worry. You made me doubt! ^__^U It´s a beauty, however, but the gold bullion work on the golden leaves of the neck look too shiny. Shouldn´t they be darker since the age?

Lapa · 03-07-2005, 07:11 PM

Tretov,

Difficult to say, but I find the embroidery too "new" compared with the rest of the jacket, and the piping around the collar too. Might it be that VP General's jacket I saw in St Petersburg that was "under repair" at the time (collar and cuff-less to be precise)? :D
What is that stuff on the cocarde and some of the embroidery? It looks like it could be some type of artificial toning to me.

Marc

DougD · 03-07-2005, 07:13 PM

I know where the uniform originated; its a good set. Its an M1945 VP set though, not M1943.

DougD

ekclete · 03-07-2005, 10:21 PM

Wonderful looking tunic and hat; it will be a nice addition to your collection.

Tretov · 03-08-2005, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekclete

Wonderful looking tunic and hat; it will be a nice addition to your collection.

It would have been if the person that was the connection between me and the owner had forgotten a "0" in the price he told me. :mad: :rant: But, never mind. I am more a cold-war guy, so I am still looking for a MSU parade uniform, M1969 model though.

slava1stclass · 03-08-2005, 06:27 AM

Tretov,

What's the provenance on this M1945 VP i.e., which MSU is linked to it? While I can make out some holes for orders, I see nothing to suggest he was awarded a HSU/HSUs.

Regards,

slava1stclass

DougD · 03-08-2005, 09:54 AM

One of the reasons I did not buy it when offered to me was that I am pretty sure (90%) that is is Sokolovsky's. It does have an HSU hole (there are more detailed shots; I'll see if i can find them) and has an order hole on the right breast that is very high up, near the shoulderboard really; this would have been for an order on hanger (pre43) which Sokolovsky wore.

I can find no other Marshal who it matches up too, and I did look for awhile before making my decision.

If you want one, its very well priced, but part of the low price is that its not, technically speaking,wartime made. I have sold a few of these and the one post war one I sold ( Bulganin) simply did not have the same "power" as the wartime ones. Who owed these high end uniforms really made a difference in value.

DougD

03-07-2005, 01:57 PM	#2
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Aren´t the M43 uniforms the ones with just a single line of buttons instead of two? __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

03-07-2005, 02:07 PM	#4
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Don´t worry. You made me doubt! ^__^U It´s a beauty, however, but the gold bullion work on the golden leaves of the neck look too shiny. Shouldn´t they be darker since the age? __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

03-07-2005, 07:13 PM	#6
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	uniform I know where the uniform originated; its a good set. Its an M1945 VP set though, not M1943. DougD

03-07-2005, 10:21 PM	#7
ekclete Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West St Paul, MN USA Age: 60 Posts: 236	Wonderful looking tunic and hat; it will be a nice addition to your collection. __________________ Thanks, Clete

03-08-2005, 06:27 AM	#9
slava1stclass Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 838	Provenance Tretov, What's the provenance on this M1945 VP i.e., which MSU is linked to it? While I can make out some holes for orders, I see nothing to suggest he was awarded a HSU/HSUs. Regards, slava1stclass

03-07-2005, 02:03 PM	#3
Tretov Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Republic of Finland Posts: 1,129	Yes. I have written the wrong thing, I do of course mean M/45. Sorry.

03-07-2005, 07:11 PM	#5
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Tretov, Difficult to say, but I find the embroidery too "new" compared with the rest of the jacket, and the piping around the collar too. Might it be that VP General's jacket I saw in St Petersburg that was "under repair" at the time (collar and cuff-less to be precise)? :D What is that stuff on the cocarde and some of the embroidery? It looks like it could be some type of artificial toning to me. Marc

03-08-2005, 09:54 AM	#10
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	Marshal Sokolovsky One of the reasons I did not buy it when offered to me was that I am pretty sure (90%) that is is Sokolovsky's. It does have an HSU hole (there are more detailed shots; I'll see if i can find them) and has an order hole on the right breast that is very high up, near the shoulderboard really; this would have been for an order on hanger (pre43) which Sokolovsky wore. I can find no other Marshal who it matches up too, and I did look for awhile before making my decision. If you want one, its very well priced, but part of the low price is that its not, technically speaking,wartime made. I have sold a few of these and the one post war one I sold ( Bulganin) simply did not have the same "power" as the wartime ones. Who owed these high end uniforms really made a difference in value. DougD

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