Medal "Soldier-Internationalist From The Grateful Afghan People".

McLenin · 09-18-2002, 11:10 AM

Hi All
I wonder what you make of these? I have seen several of these documents unissued but never seen one which I *know* to be legit.
These two are filled in, but not stamped. Is this normal?

Are they real or filled out by someone trying to increase their value? :confused:

bye for now

McL

McLenin · 09-18-2002, 03:00 PM

Wow!?!
My guess is both fake, I think mine is anyway. I wonder if anyone one else has a card to comrade Rozhedstvyenskii. The Afghans must have really loved him :D

The other one I showed (Peresumko) came from someone that everything I have got from them has always checked out, including some rare stuff. Also the document feels more used, not as stiff as the other one which looks and feels brand new. It also came with the medal which has a bit of wear, so you never know I suppose. But I still wonder why no stamp? The Soviets seemed pretty keen on stamps. :)

McL

Nota Bene · 09-18-2002, 05:07 PM

Gentlemen,

I think all three documents have fake entries. Legit documents have at least one ink stamp (usually two - Russian and Afghany).

Alexei

Nota Bene · 09-20-2002, 06:16 PM

Tal,

I wouldn't be surprised to see a retired veteran to wear something like this, but such a disregard for regulations for an officer is beyond me :confused:

Alexei

otlichnik · 09-23-2002, 05:38 AM

I have an old campaign poster for the late General Lebed. He is wearing an M1993 Airborne General's parade uniform and his Afghan People's medal is on the five-sided hanger.

If even he wore it on such a public poster than it must either be a widely accepted "modification" or an official change in the post-Soviet era.

Shawn

kabanchik · 10-06-2002, 12:24 PM

Does anyone out there have a clear photo of an Afghan People's Medal worn according to regulations?

Keith · 10-06-2002, 08:36 PM

Hello,

It seems that this document is disproportionately difficult to find relative to the award. This also is the case with two other awards of this era, the Soldier-internationalist award and the Chernobyl award. Is there a tremendous quantity of unissued awards on the market, or is are the recipients keeping their documents, but selling the awards? What clues, such as stamps, dates, handwriting would one look for to determine whether a document was filled out by the appropriate authorities, or if one of the many blank documents on the market has been fraudulently filled in later?

Thanks,
Keith

Nota Bene · 10-06-2002, 08:44 PM

Keith,

I think in case of these three many award documents were simply given to the recipients not filled in. I can't really explain why, but this is also sometimes the case with 25th Anniversary of Victory Badge.

Alexei

McLenin · 10-07-2002, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nota Bene
Keith,

I think in case of these three many award documents were simply given to the recipients not filled in.

Alexei, would these unfilled cards be stamped? I doubt it. So I suppose it is possible that a card might be filled in by the recipient themselves?

just a thought

McL

Tal Inbar · 11-20-2002, 04:19 AM

This is a fantasy ribbon bar offered on ebay. The green and light blue ribbons represent medals from Afghanistan:

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09-18-2002, 03:00 PM	#2
McLenin Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bonnie Scotland Age: 58 Posts: 56	Wow!?! My guess is both fake, I think mine is anyway. I wonder if anyone one else has a card to comrade Rozhedstvyenskii. The Afghans must have really loved him :D The other one I showed (Peresumko) came from someone that everything I have got from them has always checked out, including some rare stuff. Also the document feels more used, not as stiff as the other one which looks and feels brand new. It also came with the medal which has a bit of wear, so you never know I suppose. But I still wonder why no stamp? The Soviets seemed pretty keen on stamps. :) McL

09-18-2002, 05:07 PM	#3
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Gentlemen, I think all three documents have fake entries. Legit documents have at least one ink stamp (usually two - Russian and Afghany). Alexei

09-20-2002, 06:16 PM	#4
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Tal, I wouldn't be surprised to see a retired veteran to wear something like this, but such a disregard for regulations for an officer is beyond me :confused: Alexei

09-23-2002, 05:38 AM	#5
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	I have an old campaign poster for the late General Lebed. He is wearing an M1993 Airborne General's parade uniform and his Afghan People's medal is on the five-sided hanger. If even he wore it on such a public poster than it must either be a widely accepted "modification" or an official change in the post-Soviet era. Shawn

10-06-2002, 12:24 PM	#6
kabanchik Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA Age: 71 Posts: 80	Does anyone out there have a clear photo of an Afghan People's Medal worn according to regulations?

10-06-2002, 08:36 PM	#7
Keith Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 54 Posts: 202	Hello, It seems that this document is disproportionately difficult to find relative to the award. This also is the case with two other awards of this era, the Soldier-internationalist award and the Chernobyl award. Is there a tremendous quantity of unissued awards on the market, or is are the recipients keeping their documents, but selling the awards? What clues, such as stamps, dates, handwriting would one look for to determine whether a document was filled out by the appropriate authorities, or if one of the many blank documents on the market has been fraudulently filled in later? Thanks, Keith

10-06-2002, 08:44 PM	#8
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Keith, I think in case of these three many award documents were simply given to the recipients not filled in. I can't really explain why, but this is also sometimes the case with 25th Anniversary of Victory Badge. Alexei

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