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Old 12-06-2012, 10:06 PM   #41
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Re: Badge "50 Years Membership In The Communist Party Of U.S.S.R."

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I don't believe in official copies.
OK. Agreed. But some semi- or non-official badges did get made and were allowed to be worn. We can agree on that, can we not, like the school rhomboids?
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Znachki were made for and sold to collectors, it's as simple as that.
For collectors, or for Soviet citizens that wanted to be seen in a better light by party officials? Forgive an ignorant capitolist but it's my belief that your average low to middle class Soviet citizen would buy these znak and wear them to show his or her comrades just how supportive of the regime he/she was. Is my idea wrong? Did rabid party supporters buy and wear these daily for show? Or were these like coins and stamps that are bought and closeted like in the west?
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The proceeds no doubt were used to better the lives of workers and peasants.
Into the State coffers in other words? I thought so.

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Old 12-06-2012, 11:47 PM   #42
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Re: Badge "50 Years Membership In The Communist Party Of U.S.S.R."

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OK. Agreed. But some semi- or non-official badges did get made and were allowed to be worn. We can agree on that, can we not, like the school rhomboids?
I am afraid we can't. School rhombs were officially ordered by the institutions, and Monetniy Dvor was not the only company to have badge-striking capabilities in the Soviet Union.

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For collectors, or for Soviet citizens that wanted to be seen in a better light by party officials? Forgive an ignorant capitolist but it's my belief that your average low to middle class Soviet citizen would buy these znak and wear them to show his or her comrades just how supportive of the regime he/she was. Is my idea wrong? Did rabid party supporters buy and wear these daily for show? Or were these like coins and stamps that are bought and closeted like in the west?
You must make a distinction that seems to be lost to most Western collectors:
. award znachki
. commercial znachki
The first ones were not freely available, and were frequently worn as a sign of distinction. The second ones were similar, to take your example, to coins, stamps, pins, beany babies or baseball cards in the West, so, collected.

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Old 12-07-2012, 11:03 AM   #43
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Re: Badge "50 Years Membership In The Communist Party Of U.S.S.R."

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You must make a distinction that seems to be lost to most Western collectors:
. award znachki
. commercial znachki
The first ones were not freely available, and were frequently worn as a sign of distinction. The second ones were similar, to take your example, to coins, stamps, pins, beany babies or baseball cards in the West, so, collected.

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I suppose that would be most of the anniversary or commemorative badges with a price stamped into the reverse? I can see the idea of feeding a collector such as all the new quarters and nickels we have in the US, I just never really thought about it before.

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Old 12-07-2012, 05:02 PM   #44
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Re: Badge "50 Years Membership In The Communist Party Of U.S.S.R."

Just a reminder that this was not an official STATE issued Badge, It was a PARTY issued Badge. I know some folks have issues with items that are not handed down by the state.....
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:40 PM   #45
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OK. Agreed. But some semi- or non-official badges did get made and were allowed to be worn. We can agree on that, can we not, like the school rhomboids?
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Eric, I am afraid we can't. School rhombs were officially ordered by the institutions, and Monetniy Dvor was not the only company to have badge-striking capabilities in the Soviet Union.
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Marc, the late-issue rhombs, the one's with the plaque attached that some said were fake and some say are private purchase items; those are what I am referreing to when I said "semi- or non-official". I think that is what you mean by the base rhom being "officially ordered" from MMD or others and the plaque added? The plaques on those late badges were not official from what I understand but were allowed to be worn. I also guess that these are similar to the 25th anni of the GPW badge whose ribbon we see so often at the bottom of ribbon bars; it is not an official award but it was allowed to be worn.
Am I close to being right or am I way off base?
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:12 AM   #46
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Re: Badge "50 Years Membership In The Communist Party Of U.S.S.R."

Eric,

I was refering to school rhombs in general, not only the military ones. From as early as the late 1950's~early 1960's, these were produced by MD, but also by other badge manufacturers.

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Re: Badge "50 Years Membership In The Communist Party Of U.S.S.R."

My micro badge for "50 Years Membership in the Communist Party" with document


« 50 КПСС »
http://soviet-awards.com/forum/attac...1&d=1384901481


The Document
http://soviet-awards.com/forum/attac...1&d=1384901592

Assigned to:
Трофименко ...... Trofimenko
Сергей ...... Sergei
Данилович ...... Danilovich


Awarded by:
Партийный комитет ...... Party Committee (Ukraine)


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http://soviet-awards.com/forum/attac...1&d=1384901592
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Re: Badge "50 Years Membership In The Communist Party Of U.S.S.R."

Gromyko wore the badge proudly after receiving it, there are many photos of him with one. I think it's pretty safe to say he had earned it!
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Re: Badge "50 Years Membership In The Communist Party Of U.S.S.R."

A candid photo (by Musaelyan) of 4xHSU, HSL L.I. Brezhnev with his "50 Years Membership in the CPSU" badge.
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