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Old 05-20-2002, 06:05 PM   #1
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Fake Badges "Excellent Workers' And Peasants' Red Army".

An original 1939 Excellence in the Red Army Badge is on the left. Note the artificial patina, crude details, "shaky" lines, hammer and sickle is too thick, enamel is too dark, reverse is "mirror image", screwpost from a late issue Soviet badge is off centre. Somebody had told me that newer fakes of this badge are much better.
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Old 05-20-2002, 09:32 PM   #2
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Alexei,

If I were buying these looking at the front, I would swear the one on the right looks better. They should buff off the weird applied patina though. I like the reverse of the other example. I wonder if another original ever had these details that are present in the copy?

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Old 05-21-2002, 06:47 PM   #3
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There were two slightly different variations of this badge, both were supposed to have serial numbers, and for that reason had flat reverse. Only 149,106 pieces were made, so I doubt there were any unpublished variations.

Found this one on our favourite auction site. Looks like the same fake I have pictured above.

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Old 07-27-2002, 10:54 PM   #4
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Are these fakes being made in Russia or elsewhere?
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Old 07-28-2002, 03:13 PM   #5
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Sergey,

I am not sure, but I think they are Russian, because the screwposts appear to be modern Russian production.

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Old 04-29-2003, 05:40 AM   #6
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Fakes of 1930's badges:
- Excellent RKKA,
- For excellent shooting,
- Hasan-1938's.
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Old 04-30-2003, 02:37 AM   #7
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Interestingly, I picked up a fake Khasan badge, just like the one shown, in Canada way back in 1995. This seems to me to be quite early for fake badges and it must have been one of the first early badges to be faked.

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Old 05-22-2005, 08:43 PM   #8
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So are original Excellent RKKA flatback and copies mirror reverse?
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Old 05-23-2005, 02:24 PM   #9
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Danny,

No, both variations exist. Flatback can also be numbered or not.

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Old 11-07-2005, 11:10 AM   #10
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Here's another one for the experts. Please and thanks
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