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Old 06-11-2013, 07:28 AM   #31
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Thanks Travel-north!

Here some more pictures of the Polar. Is it possible this variation is thicker?
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:02 PM   #32
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Re: Fake "Defense of" Campaign Medals

Looks like a normal voenkomat medal to me. Quite rare!
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Old 06-14-2013, 05:28 PM   #33
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The polar defence looks like the latest voenkomat version that has never been actually awarded.
I don't know anything about early and late voenkomat versions and the topic sounds interesting, could you provide me more info?
Is it normal that a voenkomat medal has the serifs of the consecutive K and Y at different height like the older variations? To understand what I mean, look at this detail in the other 2 Voenkomats and in the Caucasus (which is a soldered ring type) and you'll notice that the "KY" on the polar is similar to the one on the caucasus medal.
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It certainly isn't as late to be one of Ms. Umalatova's.
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Old 06-14-2013, 05:44 PM   #35
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Is it normal that a voenkomat medal has the serifs of the consecutive K and Y at different height like the older variations?
I can answer to myself: "yes, it is" as I could verify on one Polar Defence of mine, here. :o
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I don't know anything about early and late voenkomat versions and the topic sounds interesting, could you provide me more info?
Is it normal that a voenkomat medal has the serifs of the consecutive K and Y at different height like the older variations? To understand what I mean, look at this detail in the other 2 Voenkomats and in the Caucasus (which is a soldered ring type) and you'll notice that the "KY" on the polar is similar to the one on the caucasus medal.
Actually, after seeing the bigger pictures I believe it is a regular voenkomat. The latest version has similar color to 1988 anniversary medal. It does not have typical yellow gold coating.
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Re: Fake "Defense of" Campaign Medals

Hello,
finally I could find an Odessa medal for a reasonable price... :p

what type of reproduction tecnique is this, in your opinion? Doesn't look cast copy...

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I think I've seen one of these before. Is it 0.2-0.3 millimetres smaller in diameter than usual?
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I think I've seen one of these before. Is it 0.2-0.3 millimetres smaller in diameter than usual?
This I dunno. This time I preferred to ask for advice before buying the medal :D

These pictures is the only thing I could get from the seller. Having seen them, I have no serious intention to buy this medal, therefore I'd prefer not to bother him asking further questions.
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I believe I have seen these before. Around 0.2-0.3 mm undersized and often caked in fake jet black patina. They don't obviously seem cast so they must be trying new production techniques.

I'd only buy an Odessa from a highly trusted source. Paying the "extra" to ensure it is real is better than getting one half price and never being satisfied.
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