Fur Cap Question

Dietrich · 03-08-2003, 11:05 AM

Hello,

could somebody help me with the attached pictures? I have no real good idea what it could be. Time frame? Value?

Thanks for your help!

Dietrich

Dietrich · 03-08-2003, 11:07 AM

Inside of Cap

HuliganRS · 03-08-2003, 11:19 AM

Looks like a real Russian hat but not Military!

Do you see any markings inside?

Rusty.

Dietrich · 03-08-2003, 11:26 AM

Hi Rusty,

yes there are markings. Please see attached picture. Also, not shown on the picture, a big "60".

Hope it helps. I thgought it was Military?!

Dietrich

DougD · 03-08-2003, 03:54 PM

These are common army officers caps from the 1960's to the 1980's; not for a general (though on e-bay they are sold as such) but for officers, usually senior, to wear everyday with overcoat.

DD

Dietrich · 03-08-2003, 04:02 PM

Thanks Doug,

any idea about the value. I'm not really into uniforms. I also have a Generals uniform with great coat. Any idea for that for value? I got all this as business presents in the early 90.

I'm really more into the orders and medals.

regards,

Dietrich

DougD · 03-08-2003, 04:12 PM

..postwar cloth has been going down over the past 3 years and I think its a good 10 years before it goes up again. There is just too much of it and its legal to take out of Russia.

The fur hats like this sell on Arbat street to tourists for $25 or so.

The generals uniform, assuming is service and is the hat,tunic, and pants, and is 1980;s, is in the $150 range or so. Thats if you could sell it. The market is so flooded that you can see 10 of them on e-bay on eny given day, usually with no bids unles they are really unusuall or are dirt cheap.

DD

Dietrich · 03-08-2003, 04:19 PM

Doug,

I will wait...

Thanks for your help!

Dietrich

otlichnik · 03-10-2003, 03:20 AM

The papakha hats with grey top were for full Colonels of any branch.

Shawn

Esteban_cool · 03-15-2003, 08:59 PM

According to what you show, this is a Papakha hat, and as I see, that blue belongs to KGB(do not mistake air force and KGB colors, air fore blue is light and KGB is this). According to the non-white enameled and all gilt one(a small but important detail when you search for non altered caps and hats)is from a general. When you see a grey top and a white enameled cockade on the Papakha, it´s okay. Now, if you see that the top is from other color(red, blue, etc) and the cockade is not all golden, you should complain...
But the point is this:You have a KGB General´s Papakha hat....
¡Congratulations!

Esteban

03-08-2003, 11:19 AM	#3
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Looks like a real Russian hat but not Military! Do you see any markings inside? Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

03-08-2003, 03:54 PM	#5
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	Modern officers cap These are common army officers caps from the 1960's to the 1980's; not for a general (though on e-bay they are sold as such) but for officers, usually senior, to wear everyday with overcoat. DD

03-08-2003, 04:12 PM	#7
DougD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NJ Age: 50 Posts: 2,060	Not much... ..postwar cloth has been going down over the past 3 years and I think its a good 10 years before it goes up again. There is just too much of it and its legal to take out of Russia. The fur hats like this sell on Arbat street to tourists for $25 or so. The generals uniform, assuming is service and is the hat,tunic, and pants, and is 1980;s, is in the $150 range or so. Thats if you could sell it. The market is so flooded that you can see 10 of them on e-bay on eny given day, usually with no bids unles they are really unusuall or are dirt cheap. DD

03-15-2003, 08:59 PM	#10
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	According to what you show, this is a Papakha hat, and as I see, that blue belongs to KGB(do not mistake air force and KGB colors, air fore blue is light and KGB is this). According to the non-white enameled and all gilt one(a small but important detail when you search for non altered caps and hats)is from a general. When you see a grey top and a white enameled cockade on the Papakha, it´s okay. Now, if you see that the top is from other color(red, blue, etc) and the cockade is not all golden, you should complain... But the point is this:You have a KGB General´s Papakha hat.... ¡Congratulations! Esteban __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

03-08-2003, 04:02 PM	#6
Dietrich New Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 13	Thanks Doug, any idea about the value. I'm not really into uniforms. I also have a Generals uniform with great coat. Any idea for that for value? I got all this as business presents in the early 90. I'm really more into the orders and medals. regards, Dietrich

03-08-2003, 04:19 PM	#8
Dietrich New Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 13	Doug, I will wait... Thanks for your help! Dietrich

03-10-2003, 03:20 AM	#9
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	The papakha hats with grey top were for full Colonels of any branch. Shawn

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