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Old 03-20-2011, 04:24 PM   #1
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Senior Sergeant Gymnastiorka war time?

Found this Gymnastiorka and was wondering if it was war time issue. I have some knowledge of these but it seems hard to determine whether it is or not.

The medals came with it and are in great condition which makes me wonder if they are a group and original to the Gymnastiorka. Only research would tell. The OPW is in the low 100,000 concave variation2 and the OOG is in the high 600,000 and a Excellent pontoon bridge badge which I have never seen before. Are they rare? Also the OOG is in great condition and I have never had one in hand with the clock tower in perfect condition.

Hope this could be a lucky find. Any comments would be great. Let me know if you need more pictures. Thanks for looking.

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Old 03-20-2011, 04:29 PM   #2
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:32 PM   #3
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:35 PM   #4
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:40 PM   #6
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Old 03-22-2011, 12:04 AM   #8
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Re: Senior Sergeant Gymnastiorka war time?

OK, I'll take a stab at it. Tunic looks Ok but could be anywhere from 1943 to early-mid fifties with that fabric and construction. Epaulets look ok but seem a bit crisp to me, especially when compared to the honestly worn uniform. They are being made as modern reproductions and these may not be original. The OPW looks fine. Pontoon badges are rather uncommon but all the WW2 excellence badges were widely copied, some quite nicely in the 60's so that they have a natural patina. You would have to let the badge guys take a look with detailed pictures of front and back (with screwplate removed). OG looks ok. Metal of the leningrad looks honest but that is a wierd patina. With a heavily tarnished defense of leningrad and OG (and damaged in wear opw), it is hard to explain the absolutely pristine defense of moscow. I suspect that is a postwar manufacture and may have been added for symmetry. With all these, why no victory over germany?
All that being said. An attractive display to be enjoyed

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Old 03-22-2011, 04:16 AM   #9
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Shoulderboards looks period item but red senior sergant strips are postwar.
Excellent badge looks like modern copy but need more detailed photos of both sides to make a decission.
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Took some detailed pics of badge. Doomula and I have access to the same uniform.
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