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Old 10-30-2005, 09:20 AM   #1
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Fake Medal "50 Years Of Militsia" Document.

I have little doubts that this document is a good quality fake, but I'd like others' opinions,

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Old 07-18-2015, 08:22 AM   #2
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Re: Fake Medal "50 Years Of Militsia" Document.

This one seems to scream "fake".
- stamp that looks like a 1 rubble coin;
- lack of issuing institution/person data (don't believe it just faded, thisdoc isnotold enough);
- no rank given
- common surname, untracable even with uncommon name like Sidor.

But is thedocument itself authentic? Or fake too?
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Old 07-18-2015, 08:28 AM   #3
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Re: Fake Medal "50 Years Of Militsia" Document.

To me it looks like it is a fake document with fake entries. The writing is appalling (although I have seen worse on real documents) but not as bad as that rubber stamp. If only all bad items were this crude.
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Old 04-27-2017, 06:52 AM   #4
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Re: Fake Medal "50 Years Of Militsia" Document.

How about this one?
Came with a few other items to the same militia officer and looks good, but there is one detail that makes me doubt about this one.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:04 AM   #5
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Re: Fake Medal "50 Years Of Militsia" Document.

Is it meant to be "Начальник УООП Сах Облисполкома"?

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Re: Fake Medal "50 Years Of Militsia" Document.

It's Сахоблисполком - Sakhalin Oblast Ispolkom - it is consistent with other docs.
What makes me doubt here is the fact that the last row on the stamp says "No.2*For administrative and money documents*"
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Old 04-27-2017, 03:25 PM   #7
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Re: Fake Medal "50 Years Of Militsia" Document.

Perhaps the wrong stamp was used...

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Re: Fake Medal "50 Years Of Militsia" Document.

I gave this a good looking at this morning. I think it is good. If you look at the clerical errors - they are consistent. Feel and smell are something else however.
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Re: Fake Medal "50 Years Of Militsia" Document.

Many thanks!
I will likely be presenting the group in the proper section after the long weekend (which we have here untill May 3rd).
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