M1945 VP General Officer Visor Caps

slava1stclass · 02-27-2003, 12:13 PM

I've read discussion in the Uniforms, Hats, Insignia group concerning the M1955 G.O. parade visor hat being converted to represent the M1945 VP G.O. version. Beyond converting the brim, chin strap, chin strap buttons and cockade, discussion has also focused on the maker's leather shield found inside the cap as being a key indicator of a genuine M1945.

A word of clarification. As a case in point, let's take a genuine M1945 VP G.O. visor hat with the below inscription on its maker's leather shield (standard inverted tear drop pattern in light brown leather):

Ts. E. P.

KOMBINAT

YBXC MO

Mockba

At first glance, one might be inclined to immediately question the hat's authenticity given the reference to MO (Ministry of Defense). This should not be an immediate disqualifier, however, since the Soviet Ministry of Defense was officially established on 15 March 1953. The M1955 version of the G.O. parade visor hat was not authorized until 3 March 1955.

In addition, the YBXC was the predecessor administrative entitity to the YBC. When you examine any later model Soviet G.O. visor hat you'll find YBC on the maker's mark and not YBXC.

BOTTOM LINE: There were almost two full years during which M1945-pattern VP G.O. visor hats would have been produced under the auspices of the newly created Soviet Ministry of Defense.

Hope this helps to shed some more light on the subject.

Regards,

slava1stclass

slava1stclass · 08-19-2013, 03:04 PM

Gents,

Currently on the well-known auction site with a BIN price of $1,400.00 or best offer. It is described as "A nice Soviet 1940 Marshal of the Munitions Troops Visor Hat in Burgundy Red colour with black velvet piping."

Although the description is clearly inaccurate, I'm unfamiliar with the branch/arm of service this headgear represents - possibly security services? I defer to DougD or Jeffrey Meffert for their thoughts.

Regards,

slava1stclass

PaulR · 08-19-2013, 09:49 PM

I have never seen anything like it... but WOW! Is it intricate.

Jeffrey Meffert · 08-19-2013, 10:58 PM

That's a beaut. Transportation general's parade visor

***CtahhR*** · 08-20-2013, 05:41 AM

Ah logistics, the sexiest of all military branches.

02-27-2003, 12:13 PM	#1
slava1stclass Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 838	M1945 VP General Officer Visor Caps I've read discussion in the Uniforms, Hats, Insignia group concerning the M1955 G.O. parade visor hat being converted to represent the M1945 VP G.O. version. Beyond converting the brim, chin strap, chin strap buttons and cockade, discussion has also focused on the maker's leather shield found inside the cap as being a key indicator of a genuine M1945. A word of clarification. As a case in point, let's take a genuine M1945 VP G.O. visor hat with the below inscription on its maker's leather shield (standard inverted tear drop pattern in light brown leather): Ts. E. P. KOMBINAT YBXC MO Mockba At first glance, one might be inclined to immediately question the hat's authenticity given the reference to MO (Ministry of Defense). This should not be an immediate disqualifier, however, since the Soviet Ministry of Defense was officially established on 15 March 1953. The M1955 version of the G.O. parade visor hat was not authorized until 3 March 1955. In addition, the YBXC was the predecessor administrative entitity to the YBC. When you examine any later model Soviet G.O. visor hat you'll find YBC on the maker's mark and not YBXC. BOTTOM LINE: There were almost two full years during which M1945-pattern VP G.O. visor hats would have been produced under the auspices of the newly created Soviet Ministry of Defense. Hope this helps to shed some more light on the subject. Regards, slava1stclass Last edited by slava1stclass; 02-27-2003 at 07:11 PM.

08-19-2013, 09:49 PM	#3
PaulR Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Age: 52 Posts: 405	Re: M1945 Victory Parade Service Cap I have never seen anything like it... but WOW! Is it intricate.

08-19-2013, 10:58 PM	#4
Jeffrey Meffert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA Age: 67 Posts: 640	Re: M1945 Victory Parade Service Cap That's a beaut. Transportation general's parade visor

08-20-2013, 05:41 AM	#5
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: M1945 Victory Parade Service Cap Ah logistics, the sexiest of all military branches. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

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