Fake Medal Bars.

RedMaestro2 · 11-03-2012, 01:42 PM

How does this medal bar look, gentlemen? Put-together, or authentic? Thanks for your help!

charlet · 11-03-2012, 02:25 PM

the Lenin doesn't fit... NEVER saw a Lenin's birth in a medal bar!

Pobeda45 · 11-03-2012, 04:11 PM

It's "period correct" but the creases on the ribbons inform me that the ribbons were removed from pentagonal suspensions and put on this suspension. Sometimes the owners did it themselves, but if go to Voentorg to buy an aluminum suspension, why not buy new ribbons themselves? I'm less concerned about the Lenin though, it was against regulations to put it on a ribbon bar but not uncommon to do so.

medals73 · 11-03-2012, 04:18 PM

Plausible enough (I guess), non-regulation, but without documents you'll never know.

Auke · 11-03-2012, 04:30 PM

It's a plausible combination of awards, the wear of the ribbons is consistent, it's plausible that the creases in the ribbons are due to the switch from single suspension to multi-slot bar, and the Lenin centenary medal was quite often put on a five-sided suspension or medal bar. It's all plausible, but just an opinion. :thumbsup

charlet · 11-03-2012, 05:33 PM

about the lenin commemorative, I'm still waiting for photographic eveidences if it is so uncommon... My guess: at best, this bar is a gathering of an incomplete or spli group of medals.

EricFG · 11-03-2012, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pobeda45

It's "period correct" but the creases on the ribbons inform me that the ribbons were removed from pentagonal suspensions and put on this suspension. Sometimes the owners did it themselves, but if go to Voentorg to buy an aluminum suspension, why not buy new ribbons themselves? I'm less concerned about the Lenin though, it was against regulations to put it on a ribbon bar but not uncommon to do so.

Also note the ends of the ribbons on the reverse; some are frayed and some seem newly snipped.
IMO doubtful a vet did that. More likely a recent job and worth very little more than just the sum of the parts.
Still, she ain't half bad looking. :D

***CtahhR*** · 11-03-2012, 09:41 PM

We are not playing the plausibility game again are we?

Someone will want paying.

Alfred · 11-04-2012, 01:24 AM

Sadely, most of these medal bars are put together. I know two person on ebay wich buy seperate medals and change them to a medal bar and sell the bar with profit.

best regards
Andreas

Tommy · 11-03-2012, 05:52 PM

Bad quality but here's two.

Screenshot_2012-11-03-22-51-07.jpg

Screenshot_2012-11-03-22-50-36.jpg

Tom

11-03-2012, 02:25 PM	#2
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Re: Medal bar the Lenin doesn't fit... NEVER saw a Lenin's birth in a medal bar! __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

11-03-2012, 04:11 PM	#3
Pobeda45 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 605	Re: Medal bar It's "period correct" but the creases on the ribbons inform me that the ribbons were removed from pentagonal suspensions and put on this suspension. Sometimes the owners did it themselves, but if go to Voentorg to buy an aluminum suspension, why not buy new ribbons themselves? I'm less concerned about the Lenin though, it was against regulations to put it on a ribbon bar but not uncommon to do so.

11-03-2012, 04:18 PM	#4
medals73 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth, most of the time Posts: 2,016	Re: Medal bar Plausible enough (I guess), non-regulation, but without documents you'll never know.

11-03-2012, 04:30 PM	#5
Auke Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 762	Re: Medal bar It's a plausible combination of awards, the wear of the ribbons is consistent, it's plausible that the creases in the ribbons are due to the switch from single suspension to multi-slot bar, and the Lenin centenary medal was quite often put on a five-sided suspension or medal bar. It's all plausible, but just an opinion. :thumbsup

11-03-2012, 05:33 PM	#6
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Re: Medal bar about the lenin commemorative, I'm still waiting for photographic eveidences if it is so uncommon... My guess: at best, this bar is a gathering of an incomplete or spli group of medals. __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

11-03-2012, 09:41 PM	#8
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Medal bar We are not playing the plausibility game again are we? Someone will want paying. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

11-04-2012, 01:24 AM	#9
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	Re: Medal bar Sadely, most of these medal bars are put together. I know two person on ebay wich buy seperate medals and change them to a medal bar and sell the bar with profit. best regards Andreas

11-03-2012, 05:52 PM	#10
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Medal bar Bad quality but here's two. Screenshot_2012-11-03-22-51-07.jpg Screenshot_2012-11-03-22-50-36.jpg Tom

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