The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum  
  • Serial Numbers Database 2.0
Enter Here

vBClassified Featured Listings
Crimean Veteran Badge
Order of Maternal Glory, 2nd Class
Valor Labor Letuchii
50th Army Veteran Badge
Fighting for Ukraine Veteran Badge

Go Back   The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum > Soviet Awards Forums > Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics > Soviet Orders > Researched Soviet Orders > Researched Orders Of Labour Glory

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-04-2012, 08:49 AM   #11
RedMaestro2
Senior Member
 
RedMaestro2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
Re: Labour Glory III,414024

Quote:
Originally Posted by CtahhR View Post
I would suggest we would see some correlation between period of time between the Ukaz and the issue and distance from the Kremlin. So most likely Muscovites' awards are the place to look for same day (or those ferried in to Moscow).
I can see this being true to a limited extent. A trick with this hypothesis is that 99% of the time we have no idea where the awarding ceremony took place. I would assume only really high-ups were ferried to Moscow.


Two examples of same-day awardings from my collection:

Affirming above prediction:
- the award for the Moscow Olympics I recently picked up

Against above:
- an award for military and political training to an air force officer serving in the Ukraine

I'll start a separate thread soon and actually display the documents (and write more lucidly).
RedMaestro2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 07-04-2012, 08:52 AM   #12
CtahhR
Forum Administrator
 
CtahhR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Deep In The Archives.
Age: 13
Posts: 11,888
Re: Labour Glory III,414024

I forgot to mention an alphabetical bias may also be shown.

I like all this fresh Labour research. Some folks said it couldn't be done.
__________________
"Signed with his own rubber stamp"
CtahhR is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2012, 08:55 AM   #13
RedMaestro2
Senior Member
 
RedMaestro2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 501
Re: Labour Glory III,414024

Quote:
Originally Posted by CtahhR View Post
I forgot to mention an alphabetical bias may also be shown.

I like all this fresh Labour research. Some folks said it couldn't be done.
Alphabetical how?

What I find most amazing is how just a few successes excited people into suddenly finding tons of new information. :thumbsup
RedMaestro2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2012, 08:57 AM   #14
Tommy
Senior Member
 
Tommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Beside the Shankly Gates
Age: 32
Posts: 826
Re: Labour Glory III,414024

With the large groups awarded to employees of companies and factories, was it possible that the awards were shipped to their place of work to be awarded by a high ranking staff member, which could explain why some weren't dated when issued? As the person who filled in the booklet didn't know specifically when they would be awarded?

Maybe not true for all large groups but is it possible?
Tommy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2012, 09:07 AM   #15
CtahhR
Forum Administrator
 
CtahhR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Deep In The Archives.
Age: 13
Posts: 11,888
Re: Labour Glory III,414024

Alphabetical as in if 20,000 people in a single site were awarded an Order it is likely that Comrade A got his award days before Comrade Z.

Some booklets don't have spaces for both Ukaz and issue dates.

I have also seen many instants when there has been a mass awarding where a document has been completely filled in by one hand (or in type) except the day numerals which were added in a separate hand or colour.

I'm sure we're all have the "come into my office" scenario by alphabetic call with the "he's not here", "ok next!".
__________________
"Signed with his own rubber stamp"
CtahhR is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2012, 11:10 AM   #16
matteti
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 405
Re: Labour Glory III,414024

Glad that I could help you Tommy! :thumbsup
I've got so much help from all the experts on this forum in the last 10 years so I'm very happy when I have a chance to give back.

About the Ukaz date and the actual date when awards was actually handed out, I don't have much knowledge, but I can share details about one of my awards:

Medal for Distinguished Labor http://soviet-awards.com/forum/sovie...scow-80-a.html

Ukaz date: 16 July 1980
Award booklet filled on: 16 July 1980
Handing of the award: 1 August 1980 (I assume it was handed out at that date based on the invitation to awarding ceremony in Kremlin)
matteti is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Badge "Young Guard 11th Five Year Plan". lingqi All-Union Leninist Communist Union Of Youth/Komsomol 2 04-01-2015 02:32 PM
5 year plan badge Alfred Fake Badges 3 12-05-2010 03:41 PM
Stalins 1st 5 year plan tshirtlarry General Talk Archive 2 05-03-2010 05:49 AM
Badge "Shockworker Of Lenin's Five Year Plan". deValcourt UzSSR Badges 0 12-16-2009 11:55 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2011 Arthur G. Bates III