An Imperial Russian Section for the Forum? - Page 2

Esteban_cool · 11-01-2003, 10:10 AM

The forum´s name speaks for itself. It is SOVIET. I also find that imperial stuff should be at another different website.
What I´m going to say now, it is NOT intended to ironize and thus, offend the members who are in behalf of the idea of creating an Imperial Russian forum, but, if you are so interested in creating one, why don´t you gather and create an autonomous one by yourselves?

REMEMBER: It is only a suggestion and not an irony. If someone has been offended for what I said, please accept my apologies.

Esteban

HuliganRS · 11-01-2003, 11:25 AM

Esteban:

Although you make sence, explain this: Why do we them discuss post soviet, Russian Federation Awards?

Rusty.

kabanchik · 11-01-2003, 11:42 AM

No matter how hard one tries to limit the scope of this forum, I believe that there will always be some amount of spillover from other fields. Many items, of course, owe their heritage and designs to Imperial awards, just as many articles introduced since the collapse owe their lineage to the Soviets. I think it is interesting AND useful to introduce this occasional thread to enhance our knowledge of Soviet awards. I think all of us derive some true value from it. I have learned SO much from this forum, and though I believe it should remain focused, an occasional venture outside can only help to enhance our collective knowledge of the subject matter.

dannybou · 12-28-2004, 11:56 AM

Over a year has gone since the last comment on this subject. Was there ever more background discussion on this? Was there a decision reached?

Tal Inbar · 12-28-2004, 12:07 PM

You can draw the conclusion from the fact that there is NO such section on the boards.

ericlida · 12-28-2004, 12:48 PM

I vote YES on Imperial Russian section for our Forum.
Our Forum is not ONLY SOVIET UNION at this time. It's also about after Soviet time and other Socialist Countries. They are not USSR either.
I would like to learn more about the awards of Russia, which is little more related to the history of Soviet Union than Bulgaria, Romania, China, Mongolia, etc. We discuss awards of those countries here.

Eric.

P.S. BTW, how to vote? It says "You already voted on this poll", but I did not

DutchBoy · 12-28-2004, 12:56 PM

As I recall the Soviet order of Glory developed out of the Imperial Order of St. George (please correct me if I'm wrong), so there is some continuity between Imperial and Soviet on this front at least.

I think it would be useful to see some discussion on them in this light.

dannybou · 12-28-2004, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tal Inbar

You can draw the conclusion from the fact that there is NO such section on the boards.

Tal, I can see that. I was inquiring if this was discussed further amongst the mods and admins and put on hold, approved for a later date or cancelled outright. I couldn't read a message puting this thread to rest.

Tal Inbar · 12-28-2004, 01:13 PM

At the moment, the word from the Stavka is "NO!".

Tal

new world · 12-28-2004, 02:46 PM

Colleagues,

My vote is DA.

Personal preferences aside, some Imperial awards had respected place in the Soviet honor's hierarchy. Certain awards (ie soldier's St George crosses) were allowed to be worn during Soviet times.

Many of Soviet heroes were descorated with Tsarist awards on the battlefields on WWI - Marshals Budenniy, Tukhachevsky, etc.

Full Cavaliers of St George crosses were honored with no less respect than Glory Cavaliers.

Regards,
William

BTW, the current tally seems to be in favor of inclding Imperial awards:

DA! Let's see some of those Imperial items! - 14
NYET! Let's keep it to the red stars only! - 10
Maybe, but not right now... - 12

View Poll Results: Should we have an Imperial Russian Section on the Forum?
DA! Let's see some of those Imperial items!	17	42.50%
NYET! Let's keep it to the red stars only!	11	27.50%
Maybe, but not right now...	12	30.00%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

11-01-2003, 10:10 AM	#1
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	The forum´s name speaks for itself. It is SOVIET. I also find that imperial stuff should be at another different website. What I´m going to say now, it is NOT intended to ironize and thus, offend the members who are in behalf of the idea of creating an Imperial Russian forum, but, if you are so interested in creating one, why don´t you gather and create an autonomous one by yourselves? REMEMBER: It is only a suggestion and not an irony. If someone has been offended for what I said, please accept my apologies. Esteban __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

11-01-2003, 11:25 AM	#2
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	Esteban: Although you make sence, explain this: Why do we them discuss post soviet, Russian Federation Awards? Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

12-28-2004, 11:56 AM	#4
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	Over a year has gone since the last comment on this subject. Was there ever more background discussion on this? Was there a decision reached? __________________ A collector from Québec!!

12-28-2004, 12:07 PM	#5
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	You can draw the conclusion from the fact that there is NO such section on the boards. __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!

11-01-2003, 11:42 AM	#3
kabanchik Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA Age: 71 Posts: 80	No matter how hard one tries to limit the scope of this forum, I believe that there will always be some amount of spillover from other fields. Many items, of course, owe their heritage and designs to Imperial awards, just as many articles introduced since the collapse owe their lineage to the Soviets. I think it is interesting AND useful to introduce this occasional thread to enhance our knowledge of Soviet awards. I think all of us derive some true value from it. I have learned SO much from this forum, and though I believe it should remain focused, an occasional venture outside can only help to enhance our collective knowledge of the subject matter.

12-28-2004, 12:48 PM	#6
ericlida Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Age: 71 Posts: 761	I vote YES on Imperial Russian section for our Forum. Our Forum is not ONLY SOVIET UNION at this time. It's also about after Soviet time and other Socialist Countries. They are not USSR either. I would like to learn more about the awards of Russia, which is little more related to the history of Soviet Union than Bulgaria, Romania, China, Mongolia, etc. We discuss awards of those countries here. Eric. P.S. BTW, how to vote? It says "You already voted on this poll", but I did not Last edited by ericlida; 12-28-2004 at 12:51 PM.

12-28-2004, 12:56 PM	#7
DutchBoy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 51 Posts: 153	As I recall the Soviet order of Glory developed out of the Imperial Order of St. George (please correct me if I'm wrong), so there is some continuity between Imperial and Soviet on this front at least. I think it would be useful to see some discussion on them in this light. __________________ Matthijs P.

12-28-2004, 01:13 PM	#9
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	At the moment, the word from the Stavka is "NO!". Tal __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!

12-28-2004, 02:46 PM	#10
new world Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 1,086	Colleagues, My vote is DA. Personal preferences aside, some Imperial awards had respected place in the Soviet honor's hierarchy. Certain awards (ie soldier's St George crosses) were allowed to be worn during Soviet times. Many of Soviet heroes were descorated with Tsarist awards on the battlefields on WWI - Marshals Budenniy, Tukhachevsky, etc. Full Cavaliers of St George crosses were honored with no less respect than Glory Cavaliers. Regards, William BTW, the current tally seems to be in favor of inclding Imperial awards: DA! Let's see some of those Imperial items! - 14 NYET! Let's keep it to the red stars only! - 10 Maybe, but not right now... - 12

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