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Old 08-03-2003, 02:50 PM   #1
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"OKDVA" Soldier's Badge

Is this a real one or a fake?

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Old 08-03-2003, 08:37 PM   #2
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Yurasha:
I´d say is a fake. I have seen other ones and the enamel is not so red. It was also more dark and slightly brilliant than the one you show.

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Old 08-04-2003, 01:32 AM   #3
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I am new to this hobby, but I understand that there are a lot of REALLY GOOD reproductions out there. This badge looks so genuine, it's a shame that it's a reproduction. Oh well, This is a way to learn I guess. Are there images of genuine OKDVA badges on this forum?

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Old 08-04-2003, 06:42 AM   #4
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waiting for specialists opinion, here's mine: some details aren't crisp (the hand of the rifleman for ex), the enamels work: two different colours, the one on the flag look like a restoration, the star make me think to a visor cap star! but don't forget it is only a pic (a good one indeed).
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Old 08-04-2003, 11:00 AM   #5
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Guys,

I would have to agree that it's a fake. As Charlet says, the detail is far to sloppy. Also take a look at the detail in the train track. Let's hear some more opinions either for or against authenticity.

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Old 08-04-2003, 02:05 PM   #6
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I won't make judgement on the piece but wanted to add a different view to this thread:

Since this badge was not produced at the mint, chances are there are at least a dozen variations... Since it was made at several factories and the striking pressure and other factors vary greatly from one to another!

Just my thoughts...

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Rusty you're right, let's see more pieces to compare and determine some version of fabrication. But I still don't like the star's style...
see Durov 's book p72, the details are very crisp, the star has flat edges.
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Old 08-04-2003, 11:02 PM   #8
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Here is the image of this badge without the retaining washer.

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Old 08-05-2003, 02:49 AM   #9
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The screw-post is a concern. It apears to have a flat base attached to the screw-post itself. I think that this ia a modern phenomenon only. Does anyone know of original Soviet era badges with this type of screw-post?

Also, the spots on the back where the pins should come through look odd - like solder. Is it two-pieces or just one piece trying to look like two pieces.

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It is two piece.

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