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06-09-2013, 02:39 AM | #21 |
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner
Yes, normally old serial number was arased for a new one was added. But there are also duplictes were no old serial number was.
I tend to like the duplicat. best regards Andreas Last edited by Alfred; 06-09-2013 at 03:32 AM. |
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07-05-2013, 01:36 AM | #22 |
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner
And another one for discussion...
Thank you all for your opinion. |
07-13-2013, 02:32 AM | #23 |
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner
A medal bar with two ORS and document. S/n 100k seems fake to me.
Sold with two campaign medals accompanied with home printed award documents. Bad sign... but he's getting lots of bids. What is your opinion? ciao sergio |
07-13-2013, 03:39 AM | #24 |
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner
Additionally, there are no signs of friction and contact between the two ORB.
Last edited by marsino; 07-13-2013 at 03:42 AM. |
07-13-2013, 11:33 AM | #25 | |
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I also tend to think ORB 100K is a fake. I comared it with a serial number near by 99.2xx. and I see a lot of differences. For example hammer and sickle in the middle. best regards Andreas |
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07-13-2013, 06:04 PM | #26 |
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner
Even the 220XXX I do not like, but it's really impressive the level of falsification reached by them.
I also would like to know the opinion of others. |
07-13-2013, 06:55 PM | #27 |
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner
Andreas, marsino, thank you for your comments. The ORB100k is more evidently a fake, but from other sources I have got indication that both of them are Baltic's productions. As marsino was saying, they are becoming extremely good in such things...in few years it will be extremely difficult to avoid being cheated by those guys, at least for the poor amateur collectors as I am...
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07-13-2013, 08:38 PM | #28 |
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner
I believe both are fake.
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07-14-2013, 03:31 AM | #29 |
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner
Yes I had now a closer look at the second ORB. It is also a fake.
Torch and flag pin are not correct. Mint mark is sightly different. and so on best regards Andreas Last edited by Alfred; 07-14-2013 at 03:43 AM. |
07-14-2013, 05:56 AM | #30 |
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner
Well done, Andreas! Thank you.
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