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Old 01-22-2004, 01:02 PM   #41
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I don't see anything wrong with this doc. There is one concern and it's a red banner entry (15 years service) which is after a Lenin entry (20 years service). But maybe Lenin was given for something else, then the book is perfectly fine.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:25 PM   #42
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Guys,

Maybe my monitor needs it's yearly cleaning, but I can't figure out any of those entries. Can't even see the Lenin entry. Any chance of a better scan of the last three entries?

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Old 01-22-2004, 07:30 PM   #43
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Last two entries ???
What do you think?
The last two entries appear to be for another Red star, and then a long-service Red Banner. Of course, since I can't read them well, that's just a guess, but it's what I'd expect to see... :D Definately need a better scan of the numbers.

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Old 01-22-2004, 08:05 PM   #44
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Dave,

That's what I thought they were, but the Red Star appears to have a six-digit serial number, or a seven-digit, starting with a "4". Hmmmm.... Let's wait for a better scan.

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Old 01-22-2004, 08:18 PM   #45
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That's what I thought they were, but the Red Star appears to have a six-digit serial number, or a seven-digit, starting with a "4". Hmmmm.... Let's wait for a better scan.

Alexei

And I thought it was a seven-digit number starting with a "3"! :eek: Yeah, we need better pics... :D

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Old 01-23-2004, 09:57 AM   #46
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Lenin and Red Banner

Order of Lenin,#304785., Order of the Red Banner,#529008
Sorry about pic's - posted by seller...

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And I thought it was a seven-digit number starting with a "3"! :eek: Yeah, we need better pics... :D

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Old 02-08-2004, 11:35 AM   #47
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Here's a whole rash of documents that I think are questionable. Your opinions?

Badge of Honor document

"Glory 1st Class" document

This is a bad picture, but I can make out that the s/n on the Homeland is 137,XXX... I don't think any numbered that high were ever issued, esp in the 1980's!

HSL doc... What's missing?

Labor Glory Cavalier group...

Hanging Nevsky...

Now for a doc for a screwback Nevsky...

This doc was with a pair of PW's...

And finally, this doc with a screwback Red Banner
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Old 02-08-2004, 06:12 PM   #48
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Dave,

Thanks for posting them. I agree, they all have problems - added entries in genuine documents or fake entries in blank documents. This collection shows a sad reality of today's market!

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Thanks for posting them. I agree, they all have problems - added entries in genuine documents or fake entries in blank documents. This collection shows a sad reality of today's market!

Alexei

What's really sad is that all of these belong to the same guy who bought them all on one trip to Russia. I bet he made a lot of dealers really happy by willingly buying all their fakes!

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Old 02-10-2004, 01:28 PM   #50
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Dave,

Do you think he really bought them as genuine items? I find that hard to believe - a person spending that much $$$ should at least know something about what he is bying.

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