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Old 04-05-2010, 07:38 PM   #1
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Is this badge original?
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:33 PM   #2
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Re: 5 Years Trade Union Railway Badge

Eric, I have to say that this is probably the best condition I have ever seen a badge in that is this old. It is absolutely perfect. No wear on the lettering or any of the details; no visible damage to the enamel. The screwnut looks at least period if not original. In fact it is almost too perfect, too new. However, having said that, I have also never seen a badge copy that is this good either. They usually have some detail flaws because of the lack of craftsmanship, but I can't see any here. Even the screw post base is not the mess that so many fakes have. It appears to have been stored away somewhere for many decades and then polished up recently. That is my best assessment and hope.:D

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Old 04-05-2010, 11:22 PM   #3
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Re: 5 Years Trade Union Railway Badge

The condition of the badge, what scares me.
The badge is more than 80 years old, but looks like new. :confused:
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:00 AM   #4
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Re: 5 Years Trade Union Railway Badge

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No mint mark or producer mark on the srew nut.

There seems to be a silver mark (head 80) below the ribbon 1918-1923.

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Re: 5 Years Trade Union Railway Badge

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No mint mark or producer mark on the srew nut.

There seems to be a silver mark (head 80) below the ribbon 1918-1923.

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Yes there is a silver mark below the ribon
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Re: 5 Years Trade Union Railway Badge

Can you make out any detail about the maker's mark? That could be the "flaw" that broke the camel's back - so to speak.:rolleyes: Without a standard to compare it to, all I can do is hope, though that is beginning to dwindle too each time I look at the "newness." All of my pre-GPW badges have at least a few tiny hairline cracks in the enamel from the normal expansion and contraction of the metal in different temperatures.

More importantly, I found a website last night where really outstanding copies are being sold of very old, pre-war badges. They are even gold and silver plated when appropriate to match the correct color. The really scary part is that some of the railway (and other) badge copies are numbered like the originals and when these hit eBay in the wrong hands, watch yourselves...:(

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Re: 5 Years Trade Union Railway Badge

I'd be shocked if it were legit.
Just an uninformed observation.
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