Movies: find it!

aironmeiden · 06-30-2009, 02:14 PM

I read the thread of Kapusta Norm and i thought that would be nice to find errors on films involving CCCP.
I suggest to start with a blockbuster: ENEMY AT THE GATES
This night i'll watch it

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Originally Posted by Kapusta Norm

So, I have a few days off and it is raining.

As such, I am watching the movie "Patton" again. Don't know if you noticed but in the scene with the Soviet officers, their awards looked very very phoney. Did anyone else notice this also?

Since I'm on the topic, Patton went to VMI and West Point? Did he transfer to West Point from VMI? Does anyone know where he graduated in his class,ie., numerically?

Tretov · 06-30-2009, 03:03 PM

Here are some other titles:

Hunt for Red October
K-19 Widowmaker
Stalingrad
Red Dawn
James Bond: Octopussy
James Bond: Goldeneye

Esteban_cool · 06-30-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aironmeiden

I read the thread of Kapusta Norm and i thought that would be nice to find errors on films involving CCCP.
I suggest to start with a blockbuster: ENEMY AT THE GATES
This night i'll watch it

There are two mistakes I noticed in Enemy at the Gates.

First: When Kruschev addresses the commisars at the barracks, a portrait shows Stalin in his M43 (or M45?) uniform, but the year is 1942.

Second: The soviet anthem played is the 1977 version that replaced the 1944 version. And before 1944 the soviet national anthem was the Internationale.

aironmeiden · 06-30-2009, 04:10 PM

I'm not expert with weapons but if you look at the rifle in the film and compare with a real photo of Zaitsev the scope looks ridicously small...
I don't know if he used small scopes for urban environment so can someone say if my observation is right?!

ANZAC · 06-30-2009, 07:11 PM

More movies:

The Winter War (Finnish)
Cross of Iron

Brendan

Esteban_cool · 06-30-2009, 10:16 PM

I saw a bit of Cross of Iron just some hours ago. I can describe it in just one word: Hilarious.

***desantnik*** · 06-30-2009, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aironmeiden

I'm not expert with weapons but if you look at the rifle in the film and compare with a real photo of Zaitsev the scope looks ridicously small...
I don't know if he used small scopes for urban environment so can someone say if my observation is right?!

This is a period scope and is actually quite large - the Germans had a much smaller one.

Commissar · 06-30-2009, 10:44 PM

Enemy at the Gates :
The one ribbon that Major König wears on his ribbon bar is a non-combatant's version of a commemorative medal for WWI veterans. Not only is it unlikely that an ace WWII sniper would have been a non-combatant in WWI, König wears a combatant's WWI Iron Cross ribbon through the buttonhole of his tunic, directly contradicting the ribbon bar.

the NKVD troops responsible for shooting retreating troops are dressed in regular army uniforms, not NKVD issued uniforms, and one of them is firing a Makarov PM.

Danilov was a commissar for most of the course of the film, the rank of commissar was eliminated on 9 October 1942, well before the end of the Stalingrad battle.

The scope mounted on Vasili's rifle in the movie is of the PU type. On actual pictures dated 1942 another type of scope can be seen, most likely of the (larger) PEM type.

Eryk · 07-01-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Commissar

Danilov was a commissar for most of the course of the film, the rank of commissar was eliminated on 9 October 1942, well before the end of the Stalingrad battle.

Not really; the order of 9 October was to be implemented over the next month, giving the commissar's military rank. And the front being what it was I wouldn't doubt if they were wearing the same uniforms long after that.

At any rate the political workers remained embedded in the RKKA. Their authority was much reduced - they could no longer override the unit commander's orders. But their political work (motivation, news dissemination, monitoring the troop's "political correctness", etc) didn't stop.

Be that as it may be... Enemy at the Gates was a terrible movie!

Commissar · 07-01-2009, 01:05 AM

Agreed.
Enemy at the Gates was a terribad movie.
I used to like it, but now its just annoying, it doesnt help either that they play it on TV non-stop.

As for cross of Iron I loved it, from what I remember it was awesome.
The SS man got what he deserved. hehe.
Sometimes it was confusing though and it was kind of hard to tell what was actually going on, but I guess thats a war movie. :P

06-30-2009, 03:03 PM	#2
Tretov Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Republic of Finland Posts: 1,129	Re: Movies: find it! Here are some other titles: Hunt for Red October K-19 Widowmaker Stalingrad Red Dawn James Bond: Octopussy James Bond: Goldeneye

06-30-2009, 07:11 PM	#5
ANZAC Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 59 Posts: 343	Re: Movies: find it! More movies: The Winter War (Finnish) Cross of Iron Brendan __________________ "If we come to a minefield, our infantry attacks exactly as it were not there." Marshall Geogi Zhukov to General Eisenhower, 1945

06-30-2009, 10:16 PM	#6
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Re: Movies: find it! I saw a bit of Cross of Iron just some hours ago. I can describe it in just one word: Hilarious. __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

06-30-2009, 10:44 PM	#8
Commissar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 424	Re: Movies: find it! Enemy at the Gates : The one ribbon that Major König wears on his ribbon bar is a non-combatant's version of a commemorative medal for WWI veterans. Not only is it unlikely that an ace WWII sniper would have been a non-combatant in WWI, König wears a combatant's WWI Iron Cross ribbon through the buttonhole of his tunic, directly contradicting the ribbon bar. the NKVD troops responsible for shooting retreating troops are dressed in regular army uniforms, not NKVD issued uniforms, and one of them is firing a Makarov PM. Danilov was a commissar for most of the course of the film, the rank of commissar was eliminated on 9 October 1942, well before the end of the Stalingrad battle. The scope mounted on Vasili's rifle in the movie is of the PU type. On actual pictures dated 1942 another type of scope can be seen, most likely of the (larger) PEM type.

07-01-2009, 01:05 AM	#10
Commissar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 424	Re: Movies: find it! Agreed. Enemy at the Gates was a terribad movie. I used to like it, but now its just annoying, it doesnt help either that they play it on TV non-stop. As for cross of Iron I loved it, from what I remember it was awesome. The SS man got what he deserved. hehe. Sometimes it was confusing though and it was kind of hard to tell what was actually going on, but I guess thats a war movie. :P

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