looking for a soviet/cossack sabre

matteti · 10-23-2009, 11:54 AM

Hi dear collectors,
I would like to purchase a soviet/cossack sabre, and I have seen some examples on E! recently. However, I have zero knowledge in the area of blades and I don't want to buy a fake item or realize later that I really got played on the price.

Anybody can recommend a reputable seller. I wish DougD had some for sell directly!

Thanks in advance for your comments/recommendations :thumbsup

pirochki · 12-31-2009, 05:29 AM

Hi Matteti, i am new here, i collect russian schaschka and have several one, i can say that there is no seriously seller of russian schaschka on Ebay.
A lot of chinese replika, a lot of german replika(dont buy a 1934 one, it`s 90% sure that it`s a replika) and the one sell by georgian are too expensive and in poor condition.
If you want to buy one, first collect a lot of information about stamps, type of head, type of blade, etc... after this you will be able to recognize replika and true one.

matteti · 12-31-2009, 01:53 PM

Thanks for your comments pirochki. Actually, I already located and committed to buy one from a very kind and reputed expert member of this forum. I just have to pay for it now. :) It is a 1937 NKVD shashka with matching scabbard in very good shape. As soon as I receive it, I will post picture of it.

other side of the blade "15 KG" and markings on scabbard...

pirochki · 01-25-2010, 04:31 PM

Yeah! he looks fine,:thumbsup i didnt know this stamp: the ''1 with the head down".I have a ziz 37 and a ziz38.
Could you post a pic of the stamps of the other side of the blade ?
What is the stamp on the scabbard? a little k?
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

matteti · 01-25-2010, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pirochki

Yeah! he looks fine,:thumbsup i didnt know this stamp: the ''1 with the head down".I have a ziz 37 and a ziz38.
Could you post a pic of the stamps of the other side of the blade ?
What is the stamp on the scabbard? a little k?
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Hello Pirochki!
Yes, a little K with a star (*) as well
I would like if you could also share pics of your two shashka for comparison of details/variations.

Thanks :thumbsup

EricFG · 01-25-2010, 07:01 PM

Ooo....nice!!!! That is so cool, I wish I could get one.
Can I ask what the price range for these might be? Just a ballpark....

matteti · 01-26-2010, 09:54 AM

Hello,
I'm far from an expert, but I can share some information I learned. Price depends a lot on the condition and the type. There are two types, one for NKVD cavalry officer and one for regular Soviet army officer. The fist one (like mine) is more silverish in color and the later one is more golden. The NKVD type is rarer, thus more expensive. I don't know by how much though. I've seen some NKVD shahskas in the $1300-2000 range depending on condition.

pirochki · 01-28-2010, 06:25 PM

I will post some pictures of mine (37 and 38).
And i will post some pictures of the other, i will try to post some pictures for every one of them.

Nota Bene · 02-06-2010, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matteti

Hello,
I'm far from an expert, but I can share some information I learned. Price depends a lot on the condition and the type. There are two types, one for NKVD cavalry officer and one for regular Soviet army officer. The fist one (like mine) is more silverish in color and the later one is more golden. The NKVD type is rarer, thus more expensive. I don't know by how much though. I've seen some NKVD shahskas in the $1300-2000 range depending on condition.

Interesting! Where does this information come from? All my information about swords comes from Kulinsky, and his books are far from complete.

Alexei

Bob · 02-07-2010, 04:02 PM

What a beauty! Definately now on my "want for Xmas" list.

Still regretting not having bought one of these with a Mongolian Khalkhin Gol badge impressed in it when offered to me a few years ago...:thumbsdown

10-23-2009, 11:54 AM	#1
matteti Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 405	looking for a soviet/cossack sabre Hi dear collectors, I would like to purchase a soviet/cossack sabre, and I have seen some examples on E! recently. However, I have zero knowledge in the area of blades and I don't want to buy a fake item or realize later that I really got played on the price. Anybody can recommend a reputable seller. I wish DougD had some for sell directly! Thanks in advance for your comments/recommendations :thumbsup

12-31-2009, 05:29 AM	#2
pirochki New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 8	Re: looking for a soviet/cossack sabre Hi Matteti, i am new here, i collect russian schaschka and have several one, i can say that there is no seriously seller of russian schaschka on Ebay. A lot of chinese replika, a lot of german replika(dont buy a 1934 one, it`s 90% sure that it`s a replika) and the one sell by georgian are too expensive and in poor condition. If you want to buy one, first collect a lot of information about stamps, type of head, type of blade, etc... after this you will be able to recognize replika and true one.

01-25-2010, 04:31 PM	#4
pirochki New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 8	Re: looking for a soviet/cossack sabre Yeah! he looks fine,:thumbsup i didnt know this stamp: the ''1 with the head down".I have a ziz 37 and a ziz38. Could you post a pic of the stamps of the other side of the blade ? What is the stamp on the scabbard? a little k? :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup Last edited by pirochki; 01-25-2010 at 04:34 PM.

01-25-2010, 07:01 PM	#6
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: looking for a soviet/cossack sabre Ooo....nice!!!! That is so cool, I wish I could get one. Can I ask what the price range for these might be? Just a ballpark.... __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

01-26-2010, 09:54 AM	#7
matteti Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 405	Re: looking for a soviet/cossack sabre Hello, I'm far from an expert, but I can share some information I learned. Price depends a lot on the condition and the type. There are two types, one for NKVD cavalry officer and one for regular Soviet army officer. The fist one (like mine) is more silverish in color and the later one is more golden. The NKVD type is rarer, thus more expensive. I don't know by how much though. I've seen some NKVD shahskas in the $1300-2000 range depending on condition.

01-28-2010, 06:25 PM	#8
pirochki New Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 8	Re: looking for a soviet/cossack sabre I will post some pictures of mine (37 and 38). And i will post some pictures of the other, i will try to post some pictures for every one of them.

02-07-2010, 04:02 PM	#10
Bob Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 335	Re: looking for a soviet/cossack sabre What a beauty! Definately now on my "want for Xmas" list. Still regretting not having bought one of these with a Mongolian Khalkhin Gol badge impressed in it when offered to me a few years ago...:thumbsdown

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