Translation Help - Page 35

***desantnik*** · 01-14-2010, 06:44 PM

It's not Romanian. Have you considered that this was written by a non-native speaker of the language in question, thereby contributing to a non-standard language?

Isn't Romansch a Latin-like language in Switzerland/Italy?

Kim · 01-15-2010, 04:37 AM

Could it be Esperanto? I don't speak it so I can't translate but its a way to continue.

/Kim

Komandir RKKA · 01-15-2010, 10:30 AM

Esperanto!:thumbsup
Exactly, I think it is. This international language was very popular in 1920-30 ies.

Nota Bene · 01-15-2010, 10:10 PM

Looks like Esperanto. Interesting!

Alexei

Al-muell · 01-19-2010, 06:16 AM

I am not convinced about Esperanto theory. Still too many "K"s for me, and this language here seems to have quite a complex grammar and from what I remember, Zamenhof's idea was to make his language simple and easy to learn for all (at least for those wjho speak indo-european languages).

UQWozza · 01-30-2010, 05:42 AM

I have been translating a Red Army book for a starshina who served most of his time on the Leningrad front. I am confused by some of the writing though.

Could anyone please help me clear this up.

My take on this is:

263 Separate anti-aircraft artillery battalion (ОЗАД - 243-й отдельный зенитный артиллерийский дивизион ) 1940 Hanko peninsula
1941 Leningrad Front 1, ? ? ski battalion, wound 23.12.1941 - hospital
1942 Заград отрад (otriad?) # 1
1943 48th Independent ? Rifle Brigade, 03.02.1944 heavy wound, hospital #2550.

He ended up in the 902 RR.

Does anyone know the honorofics for this regiment - notes in the book say 902 SBOKR which I assume to be 902 Rifle ? Order of Kutuzov Regiment.

Simon

Kirchgoens · 01-30-2010, 06:02 AM

Заградотряд # 1 - a blocking or "anti-retreat" unit. This gives ole boy a darker side - he may have been doing the shooting from behind...

Kirchgoens · 01-30-2010, 06:29 AM

My wife figured out your "??'s": it's actually a hyphenated version of the full word "otdelniy." That would make it the 1st Independent Ski Battalion. The letters following the "1" are "вый" to form "первый".

EricFG · 01-30-2010, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirchgoens

Заградотряд # 1 - a blocking or "anti-retreat" unit. This gives ole boy a darker side - he may have been doing the shooting from behind...

Yeah, nasty stuff. Cool VB to have though. Good score Simon!

UQWozza · 01-30-2010, 07:37 PM

I posted this yesterday but it disappeared over night.

Brian - thanks to you and your wife for sorting this out :thumbsup

Eric - picked this up purely on the basis of the cover - this one is blue instead of the standard manila. I will put examples of all the KK types I have in the other thread soon. Just shows what can be hidden in these books - only cover and first page shown by seller :D

Can anyone help with the last bit? 48th Independent ? Rifle Brigade

Simon

01-14-2010, 06:44 PM	#341
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,338	Re: Spanish translation help It's not Romanian. Have you considered that this was written by a non-native speaker of the language in question, thereby contributing to a non-standard language? Isn't Romansch a Latin-like language in Switzerland/Italy?

01-15-2010, 04:37 AM	#342
Kim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 227	Re: Spanish translation help Could it be Esperanto? I don't speak it so I can't translate but its a way to continue. /Kim

01-15-2010, 10:30 AM	#343
Komandir RKKA Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 180	Re: Spanish translation help Esperanto!:thumbsup Exactly, I think it is. This international language was very popular in 1920-30 ies.

01-15-2010, 10:10 PM	#344
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Re: Spanish translation help Looks like Esperanto. Interesting! Alexei

01-19-2010, 06:16 AM	#345
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	Re: Spanish translation help I am not convinced about Esperanto theory. Still too many "K"s for me, and this language here seems to have quite a complex grammar and from what I remember, Zamenhof's idea was to make his language simple and easy to learn for all (at least for those wjho speak indo-european languages).

01-30-2010, 06:02 AM	#347
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 57 Posts: 351	Re: Leningrad Front KK Translation Заградотряд # 1 - a blocking or "anti-retreat" unit. This gives ole boy a darker side - he may have been doing the shooting from behind...

01-30-2010, 06:29 AM	#348
Kirchgoens Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US Mid Atlantic Age: 57 Posts: 351	Re: Leningrad Front KK Translation My wife figured out your "??'s": it's actually a hyphenated version of the full word "otdelniy." That would make it the 1st Independent Ski Battalion. The letters following the "1" are "вый" to form "первый".

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